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	<title>Comments on: Supersize Wi-Fi with your McDonald&#8217;s burger?</title>
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		<title>By: Nic Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43748</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys... how elitist and snobbish can you get? This is all about market forces - nothing more. And although I respect the author, I do dislike the comment about opening laptops in front of McDonald&#039;s hordes or their customers not having WiFi phones. Have you never eaten in a McDonald&#039;s? Does your phone not have WiFi? And it only take a moment on my N95 to login on my browser (and then I have Truphone as well).

But my main point... why all this anti-Starbucks stuff? You don&#039;t have to drink in Starbucks... it&#039;s a free world. I pay £10 a month for unlimited T-Mobile WiFi per month (I acknowledge that is discounted as I am T-Mobile mobile customer as well). It also gives me Manchester airport. So now, when working for home, I can drink good coffee, listen to some good music, and get a break from my home in a local Starbucks. All for £10 a month. Not £5 per hour. When Starbucks make poor coffee, play poor music, don&#039;t have a nice atmosphere, then maybe I&#039;ll go to McDonald&#039;s to work instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys&#8230; how elitist and snobbish can you get? This is all about market forces &#8211; nothing more. And although I respect the author, I do dislike the comment about opening laptops in front of McDonald&#8217;s hordes or their customers not having WiFi phones. Have you never eaten in a McDonald&#8217;s? Does your phone not have WiFi? And it only take a moment on my N95 to login on my browser (and then I have Truphone as well).</p>
<p>But my main point&#8230; why all this anti-Starbucks stuff? You don&#8217;t have to drink in Starbucks&#8230; it&#8217;s a free world. I pay £10 a month for unlimited T-Mobile WiFi per month (I acknowledge that is discounted as I am T-Mobile mobile customer as well). It also gives me Manchester airport. So now, when working for home, I can drink good coffee, listen to some good music, and get a break from my home in a local Starbucks. All for £10 a month. Not £5 per hour. When Starbucks make poor coffee, play poor music, don&#8217;t have a nice atmosphere, then maybe I&#8217;ll go to McDonald&#8217;s to work instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pope</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a more pertinent comment here would be - let&#039;s hope this drives Starbucks out of their preposterous &#039;£5 to use wifi while you drink our preposterously expensive coffee&#039; and into the free wifi camp ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a more pertinent comment here would be &#8211; let&#8217;s hope this drives Starbucks out of their preposterous &#8216;£5 to use wifi while you drink our preposterously expensive coffee&#8217; and into the free wifi camp &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hermatic Fanatic</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43648</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermatic Fanatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mc.Donalds, Ooohhh God No !!!!

Muck Bollock&#039;s.... Card Chip&#039;s, and 100% Horse Burger thinner than a five years olds....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mc.Donalds, Ooohhh God No !!!!</p>
<p>Muck Bollock&#8217;s&#8230;. Card Chip&#8217;s, and 100% Horse Burger thinner than a five years olds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43444</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which leaves you with the prospect of opening your expensive laptop in front of the McDonald’s hordes.

Good humor.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which leaves you with the prospect of opening your expensive laptop in front of the McDonald’s hordes.</p>
<p>Good humor.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bowbrick</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43404</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bowbrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty canny. There&#039;s a McDonalds on my route to work (on an A-road) which is heaving with reps and other mobile workers using laptops to go online already. It&#039;s also lately been refurbished and it&#039;s all kind of Philippe Starck and lovely. I guess this is likely to be more important for these suburban and trunk road McDs than for the High Street variety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty canny. There&#8217;s a McDonalds on my route to work (on an A-road) which is heaving with reps and other mobile workers using laptops to go online already. It&#8217;s also lately been refurbished and it&#8217;s all kind of Philippe Starck and lovely. I guess this is likely to be more important for these suburban and trunk road McDs than for the High Street variety.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43369</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nevertheless, given their legendary low-rent oeuvre&quot;

You should try some of the refurbished outlets (like the one on the Strand). Some of them are now better looking and more comfortable than some Starbucks I&#039;ve been to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nevertheless, given their legendary low-rent oeuvre&#8221;</p>
<p>You should try some of the refurbished outlets (like the one on the Strand). Some of them are now better looking and more comfortable than some Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43328</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevertheless, given their legendary low-rent oeuvre, give me a McDonald’s in Singapore or France any day over one in the UK. The N95 is indeed a great phone - assuming you can get it to work longer than the half an hour the battery will allow, according to the 95% of my contacts who own one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, given their legendary low-rent oeuvre, give me a McDonald’s in Singapore or France any day over one in the UK. The N95 is indeed a great phone &#8211; assuming you can get it to work longer than the half an hour the battery will allow, according to the 95% of my contacts who own one.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43320</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you think you&#039;re being a little elitist here? McDonalds &#039;hordes&#039;? And the comment about McDonalds customers not owning WiFi phones? The N95 is free on O2 now, remember, and they&#039;re everywhere all of a sudden!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you think you&#8217;re being a little elitist here? McDonalds &#8216;hordes&#8217;? And the comment about McDonalds customers not owning WiFi phones? The N95 is free on O2 now, remember, and they&#8217;re everywhere all of a sudden!</p>
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		<title>By: Nico Macdonald</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43243</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never had a problem -- let alone trouble -- with using my laptop among the McDonald&#039;s &#039;hordes&#039;. And McDonald&#039;s has the merit of being open all hours, unlike Starbucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had a problem &#8212; let alone trouble &#8212; with using my laptop among the McDonald&#8217;s &#8216;hordes&#8217;. And McDonald&#8217;s has the merit of being open all hours, unlike Starbucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Croll</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43153</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Croll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve also been doing free wifi in Singapore (alongside France I note from the previous comment) it seems to work there in terms of foot traffic through the door... kids do their homework and big kids have meetings / play WoW until the early hours from what I can tell.

Plus I think they&#039;re rolling out less plastic-y seats and layouts inside some of their stores. It looks like a primary-coloured Dr Evil lair with burgers if the newly refitted Balham branch is anything to go by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve also been doing free wifi in Singapore (alongside France I note from the previous comment) it seems to work there in terms of foot traffic through the door&#8230; kids do their homework and big kids have meetings / play WoW until the early hours from what I can tell.</p>
<p>Plus I think they&#8217;re rolling out less plastic-y seats and layouts inside some of their stores. It looks like a primary-coloured Dr Evil lair with burgers if the newly refitted Balham branch is anything to go by.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pope</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43151</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, I just wish McD would sort out the general horribleness of their premises. I mean, their coffee is not that bad - drinkable in an unpretentious inexpensive sort of way. But the smell, the grease, the unpleasant demeanour of the staff. Or maybe that&#039;s just the Brighton London Road branch ... home of the £1 superstore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I just wish McD would sort out the general horribleness of their premises. I mean, their coffee is not that bad &#8211; drinkable in an unpretentious inexpensive sort of way. But the smell, the grease, the unpleasant demeanour of the staff. Or maybe that&#8217;s just the Brighton London Road branch &#8230; home of the £1 superstore.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Davis</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43126</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, fear not, the Social Media Café will have absolutely free and easy to use wifi, no matter what device you choose to connect with - and we won&#039;t make you have fries with that either :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, fear not, the Social Media Café will have absolutely free and easy to use wifi, no matter what device you choose to connect with &#8211; and we won&#8217;t make you have fries with that either <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/supersize-wi-fi-with-your-mcdonalds-burger/comment-page-1/#comment-43124</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If McDonald’s users are required to log in with a full-blown browser they probably won’t be able to use their WiFi-enabled mobiles (assuming any McDonald’s customer actually owns a WiFi handset, of course). Which leaves you with the prospect of opening your expensive laptop in front of the McDonald’s hordes.&quot;

Ill-researched nonsense. I&#039;ve used the free wifi service in the French McDonalds restaurants - which seems to have been running for some time - and it works perfectly on wifi mobiles (such as my n95). In France, it doesn&#039;t require people to provide a name or address - just accept the McD&#039;s T&amp;Cs. One click and you&#039;re in. 

If your wifi handset can&#039;t handle that then you&#039;ve bought the wrong phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If McDonald’s users are required to log in with a full-blown browser they probably won’t be able to use their WiFi-enabled mobiles (assuming any McDonald’s customer actually owns a WiFi handset, of course). Which leaves you with the prospect of opening your expensive laptop in front of the McDonald’s hordes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ill-researched nonsense. I&#8217;ve used the free wifi service in the French McDonalds restaurants &#8211; which seems to have been running for some time &#8211; and it works perfectly on wifi mobiles (such as my n95). In France, it doesn&#8217;t require people to provide a name or address &#8211; just accept the McD&#8217;s T&amp;Cs. One click and you&#8217;re in. </p>
<p>If your wifi handset can&#8217;t handle that then you&#8217;ve bought the wrong phone.</p>
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