Comments on: BBC’s Sound Index is good, but we won’t get the data http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/ Tracking European web and mobile start-ups Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:33:44 +0100 hourly 1 By: Google prêt à indexer de l’audio dans les vidéos http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157674 Google prêt à indexer de l’audio dans les vidéos Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:12:24 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157674 [...] C’est que Google va essayer de faire; ils ont annoncé le lancement d’un “audio indexing” via Google [...] [...] C’est que Google va essayer de faire; ils ont annoncé le lancement d’un “audio indexing” via Google [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Google prêt à indexer de l’audio dans les vidéos http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157281 TechCrunch en français » Google prêt à indexer de l’audio dans les vidéos Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:33:42 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157281 [...] C’est que Google va essayer de faire; ils ont annonce le lancement d’un “audio indexing” vis Google [...] [...] C’est que Google va essayer de faire; ils ont annonce le lancement d’un “audio indexing” vis Google [...]

]]> By: Google announces audio data indexing « Will Scully-Power’s Blog http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157243 Google announces audio data indexing « Will Scully-Power’s Blog Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:20:57 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157243 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157232 ONLINE SERVICES/INTERACTIVE MEDIA « Daily Marauder Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:03:23 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157232 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google Labs.  Dubbed GAudi, the new service is designed to work with YouTube, and will catalog [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google Labs.  Dubbed GAudi, the new service is designed to work with YouTube, and will catalog [...]

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google、動画・音声を台詞で検索できる音声インデックス「GAudi」開始 http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157208 TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ » Google、動画・音声を台詞で検索できる音声インデックス「GAudi」開始 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:58:13 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157208 [...] ウェブが洗練され、音声・動画が生活の重要なパートになるにつれ、全コンテンツからごみの山を掻き分けて欲しい物を探し出すヘルプが必要になってきた。それに応えるためグーグルは水曜、Google Labsで音声インデックスサービスの立ち上げを発表した。 [...] [...] ウェブが洗練され、音声・動画が生活の重要なパートになるにつれ、全コンテンツからごみの山を掻き分けて欲しい物を探し出すヘルプが必要になってきた。それに応えるためグーグルは水曜、Google Labsで音声インデックスサービスの立ち上げを発表した。 [...]

]]> By: Google Launches Audio Indexing « kNow Media http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157206 Google Launches Audio Indexing « kNow Media Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:49:01 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157206 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: UpTake Raises $10 Million In Series B Funding  »TechAddress http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157177 UpTake Raises $10 Million In Series B Funding  »TechAddress Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:30:58 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157177 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: Why Samsung Wants to Buy SanDisk  »TechAddress http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157176 Why Samsung Wants to Buy SanDisk  »TechAddress Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:30:29 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157176 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: Google Launches Audio Indexing  »TechAddress http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157175 Google Launches Audio Indexing  »TechAddress Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:30:10 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157175 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: Google Launches Audio Indexing http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-157171 Google Launches Audio Indexing Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:14:08 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-157171 [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...] [...] looking for in all that content. To address that, Google announced Wednesday that it has launched audio indexing in Google [...]

]]> By: Sound Index Data | Dom.ir Blog http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-144124 Sound Index Data | Dom.ir Blog Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:07:28 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-144124 [...] in response to Mike Butcher's criticisms about not opening up the data, this is purely because it's currently a public service beta and, as [...] [...] in response to Mike Butcher’s criticisms about not opening up the data, this is purely because it’s currently a public service beta and, as [...]

]]> By: Omvägar på webben är också ett sätt att hitta fram | KATTKORGEN http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136710 Omvägar på webben är också ett sätt att hitta fram | KATTKORGEN Wed, 21 May 2008 22:44:03 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136710 [...] Ironiskt nog hittade BBC-bloggaren Daren Waters, tjänsten via TechCrunch UK. [...] [...] Ironiskt nog hittade BBC-bloggaren Daren Waters, tjänsten via TechCrunch UK. [...]

]]> By: steve ballmer http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136598 steve ballmer Wed, 21 May 2008 12:44:26 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136598 I didn't see Balm! http://virb.com/balm/ I didn’t see Balm!

http://virb.com/balm/

]]> By: Mike Butcher http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136575 Mike Butcher Wed, 21 May 2008 11:31:35 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136575 Jimmy - As it happens I'm not anti UK or Europe (see the site for all the Euro trps I'm doing looking for great Euro startups - and in Newcastle tomorrow as it happens). I'm just tired of the BBC doing something interesting but then not leveraging its great platform in a way that can encourage innovation in the UK. Apparently there are quite a lot of tech people inside the BBC who agree and would like to see its data opened up more fully. But certain out-dated policies stand in the way. Nick - One of the problems with the UK is that tonnes of data is locked up in silos like the BBC or the Ordnance Survey mapping agency. In the US postcode and geo-data, for instance, is often freely available allowing new an innovative companies to flourish. Yahoo's FireEagle is a fascinating "startup" inside Yahoo which will leverage just this kind of thing. I'd like to see UK companies having that edge, that's all. Jimmy – As it happens I’m not anti UK or Europe (see the site for all the Euro trps I’m doing looking for great Euro startups – and in Newcastle tomorrow as it happens). I’m just tired of the BBC doing something interesting but then not leveraging its great platform in a way that can encourage innovation in the UK. Apparently there are quite a lot of tech people inside the BBC who agree and would like to see its data opened up more fully. But certain out-dated policies stand in the way.

Nick – One of the problems with the UK is that tonnes of data is locked up in silos like the BBC or the Ordnance Survey mapping agency. In the US postcode and geo-data, for instance, is often freely available allowing new an innovative companies to flourish. Yahoo’s FireEagle is a fascinating “startup” inside Yahoo which will leverage just this kind of thing. I’d like to see UK companies having that edge, that’s all.

]]> By: Nick http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136546 Nick Wed, 21 May 2008 08:44:52 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136546 (Just noticed that my sarcasm may not have come across there) Whilst I totally agree that anything that is possible to be open should be open and that the Beeb is just one of the many organisations to be more open I think the issue of open data is somewhat different to that of why Google wasn't originally built here. (Just noticed that my sarcasm may not have come across there)

Whilst I totally agree that anything that is possible to be open should be open and that the Beeb is just one of the many organisations to be more open I think the issue of open data is somewhat different to that of why Google wasn’t originally built here.

]]> By: Nick http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136544 Nick Wed, 21 May 2008 08:43:18 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136544 So Google used a great web crawl that PBS did to get started? So Google used a great web crawl that PBS did to get started?

]]> By: Dan Field http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136528 Dan Field Wed, 21 May 2008 07:32:32 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136528 I don't read it as anti UK... the issue is that the BBC is funded with public (our) money and in some ways is edging into commercial spaces. This not only causes trouble here in the UK, but globally. Take the BBC news website for instance, its one of the most read and respected news websites globally - its core data is funded by UK license fee payers but is then being used to compete with other commercial news sites around the world. Yes, the BBC do some fantastic work and the Sound Index is another good example of this but should we as license payers be funding this kind of thing? At the very least the data behind these great BBC services should be opened up. The licensing of this data is a very complex issue, but the BBC should at least get started by looking at it. I don’t read it as anti UK… the issue is that the BBC is funded with public (our) money and in some ways is edging into commercial spaces.

This not only causes trouble here in the UK, but globally. Take the BBC news website for instance, its one of the most read and respected news websites globally – its core data is funded by UK license fee payers but is then being used to compete with other commercial news sites around the world.

Yes, the BBC do some fantastic work and the Sound Index is another good example of this but should we as license payers be funding this kind of thing?

At the very least the data behind these great BBC services should be opened up. The licensing of this data is a very complex issue, but the BBC should at least get started by looking at it.

]]> By: I saw this… » the billblog http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136480 I saw this… » the billblog Wed, 21 May 2008 00:01:02 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136480 [...] TechCrunch UK » Blog Archive » BBC?s Sound Index is good, but we won?t get the data - Free our data campaigner Mike Butcher keeps on pushing [...] [...] TechCrunch UK » Blog Archive » BBC?s Sound Index is good, but we won?t get the data – Free our data campaigner Mike Butcher keeps on pushing [...]

]]> By: Pete http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136449 Pete Tue, 20 May 2008 20:48:38 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136449 Agree with jimmy. The anti Uk, anti European angle of Techcrunch is boring boring boring. Agree with jimmy. The anti Uk, anti European angle of Techcrunch is boring boring boring.

]]> By: Sam Sethi http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136377 Sam Sethi Tue, 20 May 2008 15:01:36 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136377 I love the BBC, what has America or the rest of the world got like this. The BBC have helped the UK mass market understand and consume RSS, podcasts, Second Life, iPlayer etc and now this sound index which may not be perfect but it is an excellent example of the semantic web in action. I love the BBC, what has America or the rest of the world got like this. The BBC have helped the UK mass market understand and consume RSS, podcasts, Second Life, iPlayer etc and now this sound index which may not be perfect but it is an excellent example of the semantic web in action.

]]> By: jimmy http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136364 jimmy Tue, 20 May 2008 13:58:03 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136364 ". But I guess they are safe - the commercial partners may not like that - so the BBC proves once more why Google was not built here". what an utter load of bullsh+t to append to a relatively informative article. i stopped visiting techcrunch a long time ago because of the anti-uk trash that you seem to thrive on. “. But I guess they are safe – the commercial partners may not like that – so the BBC proves once more why Google was not built here”. what an utter load of bullsh+t to append to a relatively informative article. i stopped visiting techcrunch a long time ago because of the anti-uk trash that you seem to thrive on.

]]> By: Project http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-get-the-data/comment-page-1/#comment-136363 Project Tue, 20 May 2008 13:52:47 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=1274#comment-136363 Release *what* data? What does SoundIndex have that is useful to Songkick that they couldn't get from Last.FM? I don't understand your fascination with the issue. Release *what* data? What does SoundIndex have that is useful to Songkick that they couldn’t get from Last.FM?

I don’t understand your fascination with the issue.

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