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	<title>Comments on: So where are London&#8217;s existing, organic TechHubs?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-173078</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I published an update on this issue here: 
http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/10/28/london-techhub-it-might-actually-be-happening/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I published an update on this issue here:<br />
<a href="http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/10/28/london-techhub-it-might-actually-be-happening/" rel="nofollow">http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/10/28/london-techhub-it-might-actually-be-happening/</a></p>
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		<title>By: London TechHub - It might actually be happening</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-172710</link>
		<dc:creator>London TechHub - It might actually be happening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] day later, unknown to me, the meme about Silicon Roundabout broke in the press and talk of a &#8220;TechHub&#8221; now seemed rather a &#8220;top down&#8221;, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] day later, unknown to me, the meme about Silicon Roundabout broke in the press and talk of a &#8220;TechHub&#8221; now seemed rather a &#8220;top down&#8221;, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Walker</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149793</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thin Martian the digital creative agency who do most of the stuff for MSN is on silicon roundabout too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thin Martian the digital creative agency who do most of the stuff for MSN is on silicon roundabout too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149408</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 7 Digital are also based around there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 7 Digital are also based around there?</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pope</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149397</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Dec 1996 UK Wired (remember that?) had an article about new media firms in Shoreditch, dubbing them the Ditcherati: &quot;The Ditcherati: Old Street&#039;s New Media&quot;. I only have the cover to hand (framed on my wall, myself and Steve Bowbrick feature). I guess the real question is, after all this time, why so few startups in this place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Dec 1996 UK Wired (remember that?) had an article about new media firms in Shoreditch, dubbing them the Ditcherati: &#8220;The Ditcherati: Old Street&#8217;s New Media&#8221;. I only have the cover to hand (framed on my wall, myself and Steve Bowbrick feature). I guess the real question is, after all this time, why so few startups in this place?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Hoult</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149262</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Hoult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, clusters... profound concept indeed. I&#039;ve been there operating First Tuesday, running a Web1.0 incubator space Metrocube and now blogging about business models, the next big thing, the new rules.

I&#039;m running an Open Office networking night, Castaway, for folk interested in beer, peanuts and digital. Check http://opencast.wordpress.com/castaway/ - offers to host, or RSVPs to attend welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, clusters&#8230; profound concept indeed. I&#8217;ve been there operating First Tuesday, running a Web1.0 incubator space Metrocube and now blogging about business models, the next big thing, the new rules.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running an Open Office networking night, Castaway, for folk interested in beer, peanuts and digital. Check <a href="http://opencast.wordpress.com/castaway/" rel="nofollow">http://opencast.wordpress.com/castaway/</a> &#8211; offers to host, or RSVPs to attend welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Hogarth</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149200</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there are any start-ups thinking about re-locating out East feel free to come by our office and have a chat about the area, we love it. 

We&#039;ve also been running a monthly meetup for London based hackers at our office. There&#039;s a bit more detail here (http://www.songkick.com/blog/2008/04/24/hacker-meetup-2-photos/) but it&#039;s basically an opportunity for anyone hacking on a project to share ideas and get advice. We created it after experiencing how incredibly helpful it is to be surrounded by other hackers during Y Combinator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there are any start-ups thinking about re-locating out East feel free to come by our office and have a chat about the area, we love it. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also been running a monthly meetup for London based hackers at our office. There&#8217;s a bit more detail here (<a href="http://www.songkick.com/blog/2008/04/24/hacker-meetup-2-photos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.songkick.com/blog/2008/04/24/hacker-meetup-2-photos/</a>) but it&#8217;s basically an opportunity for anyone hacking on a project to share ideas and get advice. We created it after experiencing how incredibly helpful it is to be surrounded by other hackers during Y Combinator.</p>
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		<title>By: alfie</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149160</link>
		<dc:creator>alfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget &lt;a href=&quot;http://moblog.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moblog&lt;/a&gt; has an office here too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget <a href="http://moblog.net" rel="nofollow">Moblog</a> has an office here too!</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Beresford</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-149150</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Beresford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a few tech startups round Soho too... there&#039;s one called Visage Book or Face Library or something like that... ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a few tech startups round Soho too&#8230; there&#8217;s one called Visage Book or Face Library or something like that&#8230; ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Mimi Hui</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148993</link>
		<dc:creator>Mimi Hui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to know that we&#039;re right in the heat of it.  We&#039;re Seren + we&#039;re a service design agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know that we&#8217;re right in the heat of it.  We&#8217;re Seren + we&#8217;re a service design agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Bond</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148991</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick thought. You mean these startups have an office and don&#039;t all work from home? How 20th century!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick thought. You mean these startups have an office and don&#8217;t all work from home? How 20th century!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Bond</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148987</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you should also mention that there are two major datacentres within walking distance as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you should also mention that there are two major datacentres within walking distance as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Burak Alpar</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148974</link>
		<dc:creator>Burak Alpar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clusters are important for the development of all sorts of industries and London already has plenty of them for finance, law, media, haute couture, lebanese food, antiques and so on. 

The real benefits of these clusters come in the form of proximity to related services, inhabitants rubbing shoulders with like-minded individuals and also from recognition from outsiders ie a reputation as &#039;the place to be&#039; if you&#039;re in that industry.

The problem with trying to base something like this in Central London is that it&#039;s so hard to build a significant new identity quickly in this city.  Perhaps the 2012 olympic infrastructure will yield an appropriate site, and it would benefit from links to Crossrail once it comes.

Otherwise, we&#039;ve got to come up with a better name than Silicon Roundabout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clusters are important for the development of all sorts of industries and London already has plenty of them for finance, law, media, haute couture, lebanese food, antiques and so on. </p>
<p>The real benefits of these clusters come in the form of proximity to related services, inhabitants rubbing shoulders with like-minded individuals and also from recognition from outsiders ie a reputation as &#8216;the place to be&#8217; if you&#8217;re in that industry.</p>
<p>The problem with trying to base something like this in Central London is that it&#8217;s so hard to build a significant new identity quickly in this city.  Perhaps the 2012 olympic infrastructure will yield an appropriate site, and it would benefit from links to Crossrail once it comes.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we&#8217;ve got to come up with a better name than Silicon Roundabout.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148950</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CrunchBase map is doing all sort of weird stuff - I am talking to our developers about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CrunchBase map is doing all sort of weird stuff &#8211; I am talking to our developers about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Simos</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/07/30/so-where-are-londons-existing-organic-techhubs/comment-page-1/#comment-148936</link>
		<dc:creator>Simos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike

I think the idea for a TechHub is great - we have something similar on a small scale it&#039;s very beneficial; if anything, it keeps us sane! ;)

Whether it&#039;s a &#039;roundabout&#039; or a building or set of buildings I don&#039;t think it matters hugely, although there is something to be said about things that come out of random conversations (coffee machine, corridors, watercooler and the rest of the cliches which are true!) so being in the same physical space does help. Shared services and infrastructure are obvious advantages too, especially for startups.

On another note, there must be something wrong with the CrunchBase map indeed. I don&#039;t see us (PeoplePerHour.com) on the map but when I search on Crunchbase I can find us, together with the full address, postcode etc. Unless I am missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike</p>
<p>I think the idea for a TechHub is great &#8211; we have something similar on a small scale it&#8217;s very beneficial; if anything, it keeps us sane! <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Whether it&#8217;s a &#8217;roundabout&#8217; or a building or set of buildings I don&#8217;t think it matters hugely, although there is something to be said about things that come out of random conversations (coffee machine, corridors, watercooler and the rest of the cliches which are true!) so being in the same physical space does help. Shared services and infrastructure are obvious advantages too, especially for startups.</p>
<p>On another note, there must be something wrong with the CrunchBase map indeed. I don&#8217;t see us (PeoplePerHour.com) on the map but when I search on Crunchbase I can find us, together with the full address, postcode etc. Unless I am missing something?</p>
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