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	<title>Comments on: Document startups in chaos as Adobe&#8217;s Flashpaper discontinues</title>
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		<title>By: blog.twidox.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; twidox (re)launches private-beta!</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-177578</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.twidox.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; twidox (re)launches private-beta!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] · http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-157765</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested in a replacement, we will probably make our flash paper available for anyone, free of charge, in the spirit of open source. If you want to know more, drop me a line at nicholas at twidox dot com 

www.twidox.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in a replacement, we will probably make our flash paper available for anyone, free of charge, in the spirit of open source. If you want to know more, drop me a line at nicholas at twidox dot com </p>
<p><a href="http://www.twidox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.twidox.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; OLDaily 05-09-08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156653</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; OLDaily 05-09-08 El Blog Boyacense: El sitio de referencia de tod@s l@s boyacenses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] y otras herramientas de código abierto.&#8221; Hay una lección que debemos aprender en eso. [L] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] y otras herramientas de código abierto.&#8221; Hay una lección que debemos aprender en eso. [L] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156260</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are currently exploring the value of setting up an OpenSource project to develop a replacement to Macromedia Flashpaper. So far, I have entered into early discussion with one existing product owner who is keen to OpenSource his product. Here are couple of threads you might be interested in contributing to or simply following:

http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/57b98b2515481131
http://groups.google.com/group/edocr-platform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are currently exploring the value of setting up an OpenSource project to develop a replacement to Macromedia Flashpaper. So far, I have entered into early discussion with one existing product owner who is keen to OpenSource his product. Here are couple of threads you might be interested in contributing to or simply following:</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/57b98b2515481131" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/geekup/browse_thread/thread/57b98b2515481131</a><br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/edocr-platform" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/edocr-platform</a></p>
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		<title>By: BRB &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Épisode 08</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156206</link>
		<dc:creator>BRB &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Épisode 08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bye, bye flashpaper [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rowan Hanna</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156117</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alon, would you mind sharing with everyone what technology docstoc uses for displaying documents online?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alon, would you mind sharing with everyone what technology docstoc uses for displaying documents online?</p>
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		<title>By: Alon</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156054</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, docstoc does not use FlashPaper for a long time now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, docstoc does not use FlashPaper for a long time now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: iddaa</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-156038</link>
		<dc:creator>iddaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scribd’s iPaper product is in no way related or dependent upon FlashPaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scribd’s iPaper product is in no way related or dependent upon FlashPaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe to discontinue FlashPaper</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155989</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe to discontinue FlashPaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also bad news for a number of online document publishing websites like Docstoc and edocr who utilize FlashPaper [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also bad news for a number of online document publishing websites like Docstoc and edocr who utilize FlashPaper [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe discontinues FlashPaper &#124;Technology and Business Startups in India</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155974</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe discontinues FlashPaper &#124;Technology and Business Startups in India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like Docstoc were using FlashPaper - and with this decision of Adobe will surely land them up in &#8216;early [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like Docstoc were using FlashPaper &#8211; and with this decision of Adobe will surely land them up in &#8216;early [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Richter</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155952</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Richter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some info about alternative solutions are in this thread on my site:
http://www.flashcomguru.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1557

http://tinyurl.com/6krqzx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some info about alternative solutions are in this thread on my site:<br />
<a href="http://www.flashcomguru.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1557" rel="nofollow">http://www.flashcomguru.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1557</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6krqzx" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6krqzx</a></p>
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		<title>By: DBL</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155807</link>
		<dc:creator>DBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the world were a just and fair place, it would be absolutely impossible for Adobe to *ever* propose another standard without being laughed and ridiculed right off the public stage by a responsible press. But we all know that this is not what will happen. We all know that when Adobe does propose another standard of some kind, this fiasco will go barely mentioned and everyone will just swallow it up all over again. If makes no sense to you that humans would behave this way, consider that your press is bought and paid for -- because it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the world were a just and fair place, it would be absolutely impossible for Adobe to *ever* propose another standard without being laughed and ridiculed right off the public stage by a responsible press. But we all know that this is not what will happen. We all know that when Adobe does propose another standard of some kind, this fiasco will go barely mentioned and everyone will just swallow it up all over again. If makes no sense to you that humans would behave this way, consider that your press is bought and paid for &#8212; because it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sei</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155724</link>
		<dc:creator>Sei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another example of why closed proprietary filetypes are best avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another example of why closed proprietary filetypes are best avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: Flashpaper &#124; Aching Brain</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155703</link>
		<dc:creator>Flashpaper &#124; Aching Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have despatched Flashpaper to the same grave of irrelevant products as FreeHand and ImageReady.  Considering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have despatched Flashpaper to the same grave of irrelevant products as FreeHand and ImageReady.  Considering [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Reardon&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VICTORY</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155676</link>
		<dc:creator>William Reardon&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; VICTORY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch: Document startups in chaos as Adobe’s Flashpaper discontinues [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Bentley</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155651</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scribd&#039;s iPaper product is in no way related or dependent upon FlashPaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scribd&#8217;s iPaper product is in no way related or dependent upon FlashPaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155639</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an idea, would the opensource community consider developing a replacement? This will ensure continuity and remove the reliance on commercial decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an idea, would the opensource community consider developing a replacement? This will ensure continuity and remove the reliance on commercial decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155637</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicholas, I&#039;m afraid I do not use Xing that often. Appreciate if you could drop an e-mail (manoj [at] ranaweera [dot] name). What you say makes sense. Hence my suggestion that Scribd considers licensing iPaper. My understanding is that significant resources have gone into producing it and it does not make sense for all us to develop our own. 

Perhaps, Scribd could respond here. Will ping Trip. It is also vital that any such product allows full branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicholas, I&#8217;m afraid I do not use Xing that often. Appreciate if you could drop an e-mail (manoj [at] ranaweera [dot] name). What you say makes sense. Hence my suggestion that Scribd considers licensing iPaper. My understanding is that significant resources have gone into producing it and it does not make sense for all us to develop our own. </p>
<p>Perhaps, Scribd could respond here. Will ping Trip. It is also vital that any such product allows full branding.</p>
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		<title>By: Flash Charlotte &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Flashpaper is Toast</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155587</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash Charlotte &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe Flashpaper is Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you&#8217;re dying to dig deeper, you can read more here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you&#8217;re dying to dig deeper, you can read more here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Links 05/09/2008: Sub-$100 GNU/Linux Laptop, KOffice on Maemo</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155577</link>
		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Links 05/09/2008: Sub-$100 GNU/Linux Laptop, KOffice on Maemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Document startups in chaos as Adobe’s Flashpaper discontinues [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PJ Doland</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155575</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia, wouldn&#039;t it make more sense to just have the Flash plugin support embedding of PDFs?

Maybe that&#039;s why they&#039;re discontinuing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia, wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to just have the Flash plugin support embedding of PDFs?</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re discontinuing it.</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Document startups in chaos as Adobe&#8217;s Flashpaper discontinues &#124; Creative Toolbox</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155572</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch UK &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Document startups in chaos as Adobe&#8217;s Flashpaper discontinues &#124; Creative Toolbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Document startups in chaos as Adobe&#8217;s Flashpaper discontinues. (Via Daring Fireball.)       &#171; Adobe to demo Creative Suite 4 on Sept. 23rd [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Document startups in chaos as Adobe&rsquo;s Flashpaper discontinues. (Via Daring Fireball.)       &laquo; Adobe to demo Creative Suite 4 on Sept. 23rd [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Horsman</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155571</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Horsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian Betteridge

Like Microsoft?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian Betteridge</p>
<p>Like Microsoft?</p>
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		<title>By: Emil Tamas</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155559</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Tamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mohammad Al-Ubaydli  - OO can export anything to PDF (even SWF directly for Powerpoint related slides, to a certain degre). 

From PDF, you can convert to SWF directly by using other open source tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mohammad Al-Ubaydli  &#8211; OO can export anything to PDF (even SWF directly for Powerpoint related slides, to a certain degre). </p>
<p>From PDF, you can convert to SWF directly by using other open source tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/09/04/startups-in-chaos-as-adobes-flashpaper-discontinues/comment-page-1/#comment-155512</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that print2flash only supports Windows, and not other systems such as Linux. Also, how much trust can you invest into another company that uses a product that will be discontinued. 

It seems strange that no one has filled the void. It will be interesting to see what edocr develops, but would it not make sense for a start-up to create one solution to the problem, rather than Scribd, Docstoc, edocr and us (twidox) all developing our own product? 

@ Manoj - let’s talk some time. If you want, contact me via XING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that print2flash only supports Windows, and not other systems such as Linux. Also, how much trust can you invest into another company that uses a product that will be discontinued. </p>
<p>It seems strange that no one has filled the void. It will be interesting to see what edocr develops, but would it not make sense for a start-up to create one solution to the problem, rather than Scribd, Docstoc, edocr and us (twidox) all developing our own product? </p>
<p>@ Manoj &#8211; let’s talk some time. If you want, contact me via XING.</p>
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