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	<title>Comments on: Designer goes after mobile startup over alleged non-payment</title>
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		<title>By: chinawhite</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176625</link>
		<dc:creator>chinawhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News? WTF? Are you a pid stooge or have an axe to grind??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News? WTF? Are you a pid stooge or have an axe to grind??</p>
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		<title>By: John Coseca</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176452</link>
		<dc:creator>John Coseca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike

http://next2friendsblog.com/2008/11/09/next2friends-scheduled-maintenance-and-upgrades/

Sounds like you have a beef with someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike</p>
<p><a href="http://next2friendsblog.com/2008/11/09/next2friends-scheduled-maintenance-and-upgrades/" rel="nofollow">http://next2friendsblog.com/2008/11/09/next2friends-scheduled-maintenance-and-upgrades/</a></p>
<p>Sounds like you have a beef with someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hansel</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176451</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we speak the sites down as well, so maybe there is some milage in this story? 

Or just cant cope with 12K hits a day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we speak the sites down as well, so maybe there is some milage in this story? </p>
<p>Or just cant cope with 12K hits a day?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176441</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used Next2Friends since it was first lauched and love the site. Great people, great technology and a growing following.

These guys are in a tough market and doing OK- look at the BlackBerry release, then the CEA nomination and I now hear about them white labelling- Sounds to me these guys are keeping ahead of Flixwagon and QIK.

Every company has disputes and disgruntled suppliers/ staff, etc from time to time- this is nothing new! Pity Nic La doesnt have anything better to do these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used Next2Friends since it was first lauched and love the site. Great people, great technology and a growing following.</p>
<p>These guys are in a tough market and doing OK- look at the BlackBerry release, then the CEA nomination and I now hear about them white labelling- Sounds to me these guys are keeping ahead of Flixwagon and QIK.</p>
<p>Every company has disputes and disgruntled suppliers/ staff, etc from time to time- this is nothing new! Pity Nic La doesnt have anything better to do these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176404</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manoj - A) I&#039;m just reporting what&#039;s happening, nothing more nothing less - got a problem with that?  b) it&#039; actually rare that these disputes go public, hence the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manoj &#8211; A) I&#8217;m just reporting what&#8217;s happening, nothing more nothing less &#8211; got a problem with that?  b) it&#8217; actually rare that these disputes go public, hence the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Manoj Ranaweera</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176401</link>
		<dc:creator>Manoj Ranaweera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I cannot believe you published this story. These types of disputes happen everyday. Surely you are not running out of stories to blog, are you? 

Best regards, Manoj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I cannot believe you published this story. These types of disputes happen everyday. Surely you are not running out of stories to blog, are you? </p>
<p>Best regards, Manoj</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hansel</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176399</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hansel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next2noone likes or uses the site so I guess its to do with that, bit of a flop TBH. Maybe the idea was ok but just seems to have missed getting any traction with users. If they are financially ok because of investment that is fine but medium to long term its not sustainable IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next2noone likes or uses the site so I guess its to do with that, bit of a flop TBH. Maybe the idea was ok but just seems to have missed getting any traction with users. If they are financially ok because of investment that is fine but medium to long term its not sustainable IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: not spamming to promote my ego</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176391</link>
		<dc:creator>not spamming to promote my ego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this news worthy ?
what&#039;s the story here.
Slow news day ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this news worthy ?<br />
what&#8217;s the story here.<br />
Slow news day ?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Muir</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176385</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesson for sub-contractors is to know exactly whom your contract is with.  In an uncertain business climate, you want to be sure that you are working for someone who has the resources to pay, either willingly or after you have been to court. 

It is also important to include a &#039;retention of title&#039; clause, whereby you retain the rights to your work until you have been paid in full.  This may seem overly formal when faced with a new, exciting contract, but I see a number of designers or developers who find themselves out of pocket, while their work continues to be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson for sub-contractors is to know exactly whom your contract is with.  In an uncertain business climate, you want to be sure that you are working for someone who has the resources to pay, either willingly or after you have been to court. </p>
<p>It is also important to include a &#8216;retention of title&#8217; clause, whereby you retain the rights to your work until you have been paid in full.  This may seem overly formal when faced with a new, exciting contract, but I see a number of designers or developers who find themselves out of pocket, while their work continues to be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176243</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working with Anthony from more 2 years. I never had problems. I received all payments for all works that I did, without delay times. He is a great professional person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working with Anthony from more 2 years. I never had problems. I received all payments for all works that I did, without delay times. He is a great professional person.</p>
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		<title>By: Hash</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176207</link>
		<dc:creator>Hash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been working with Genetibase &amp; Next2friends for more then 4 years now. There has never been a single instance where I have not been paid, although there have been times I have underperformed or not delivered on time but still got the payments on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working with Genetibase &amp; Next2friends for more then 4 years now. There has never been a single instance where I have not been paid, although there have been times I have underperformed or not delivered on time but still got the payments on time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Smith</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176177</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next2broke? 
Next2notraffic?
Next2nomoney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next2broke?<br />
Next2notraffic?<br />
Next2nomoney?</p>
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		<title>By: gwaller</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2008/11/09/designer-goes-after-mobile-startup-over-alleged-non-payment/comment-page-1/#comment-176148</link>
		<dc:creator>gwaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its clear that Nic La has been involved with Next2Friends- smart site design and cool CSS work. Pity Nystrom and La cannot work things out privately rather than creating a public mud slinging match- reading Nic&#039;s blog there is certainly two sides to this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its clear that Nic La has been involved with Next2Friends- smart site design and cool CSS work. Pity Nystrom and La cannot work things out privately rather than creating a public mud slinging match- reading Nic&#8217;s blog there is certainly two sides to this story.</p>
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