Comments on: One more BNP thing – heatmaps replace pins, but Pandora’s box is now open

By: Social Media 2009: That Was The Year That Was : Dan Wilson : eBay expert, social networking, online community, ecommerce, stuff

Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:24:18 +0000

[...] ‘racist bastards’ it’s all over the web and geeks had shared it and started mashing it up. Some of the BNP maps were better than others. This episode highlighted two things. In the popular media, the net is seen as the wild west where [...]

By: Paul Battley

Paul Battley — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:59:22 +0000

The ‘jewnearme’ map you suggest as a counter-example already exists. Go to http://londonprofiler.org/ , click on ‘Multicultural Atlas of London’, and select the ethnic group you’re interested in.

I hadn’t thought of it in those terms before, though.

By: Rob

Rob — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:43:53 +0000

Can someone please come and get me?

I have been dying to use my Tony Martin costume for ages!

By: Unbelivable

Unbelivable — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:09:05 +0000

“bnpnearme”, so tell me what so interesting in knowing that “a bnp is near me” (wow, scaring) ?

I do insist. What about “jewnearme.com” ?

This is all about it. Just ask yourself what the purpose of your website is. Is it innocent or do you deliberatly and publicly want to condemn a certain category of people ?
This is a human chase against “wrong thinking” people. In the name of “democracy” right ? This is fascist behaviour.

“No liberty for enemys of liberty” – this is a french quote during 1789 revolution (Antoine de Saint-Just). This led to a period called “the terror” where people suspected not to support the revolution where just… a… kind of killed. You know the “Guillotine” stuff… In Vendée (actually not far for Bretagne, near England) entiere population where killed by theses army “of liberty”, women, children, no pity, because they were just not ok with the way things were going.

Yeah oh by the way, this guy from the quote, Saint-Just, he was “guillotined” too. Was suspected not to totaly agree with any stupid dogm of the revolutino, or whatever. Funny don’t you think ?

You may not invoke democracy or wtf you want about human rights and other things to JUSTIFY what you are doing. You are just in the fanatic camp.
Just go offline with your human chase website, respect people and what they think, wether you are ok or not.

By: bnpnearme

bnpnearme — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:06:27 +0000

Hi. I’m one of the guys involved with bnpnearme.co.uk

I’m sorry, Unbelievable, but what exactly are you talking about? None of these mashups show any personally identifiable information, so how exactly is anyone going to get run down in their car?

When this news story broke, a lot of people were interested in the data, but were unable to obtain or visualise it in a meaningful format (we certainly had to do a lot of data processing to get the information into a useful form). All we did was make that easier for people who are interested.

By: Rob Dyke

Rob Dyke — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:06:35 +0000

While there are many political uses of the information, the lists of names of membership of any organisation should be kept private. Lists of names, as Tom Steinberg (MySociety) said, start us down a path best not begun. There are lots of lists of names missing or lost about the place, perhaps they shouldn’t be seeded as torrents or publicly searchable. Just because there are techniques to mash this data and present it in interesting ways (against ethnicity data, or social deprivation indexes, or just against voter turnout) does not mean that anyone should.

By: Unbelievable

Unbelievable — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:26:03 +0000

I’m still speechless that nobody seems to see a real threat in targeting people based on their political belonging.

Here is the post i made on previous article. You guys all talk about the mashup in technical terms, etc. Nobody just see any disturbing behaviour in showing publicly this data in a way which is a silent call for “hey this guy in your street is in BNP, just make sure you hit him with your car next time you see it or think about setting fire in his house”…

Sorry i have a Godwin law or Reductio Ad Hitlerum for the very first post : Nazis did not do anything else in 30s/40s with jews. Think about it.

———–
I am speechless…
That the most disturbing news i ever eard in years.
And you guys are just saying “oh yeah that’s interesting data”.
Well, shoud we just kill these guys for being BNP ?
What about a mashup of jews residants with yellow stars instead of pins ?
What about a mashup of muslims, christians, gays, black, white, yellow, blue peoples ?
Have you all guys lost your mind ?!

- sorry i’m fluent in not english -

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Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:14:25 +0000

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By: Martin Wright.tv » Blog Archive » Following the Story: BNP

Martin Wright.tv » Blog Archive » Following the Story: BNP — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:17:04 +0000

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By: What’s wrong with having your name on a list? | almost witty

What’s wrong with having your name on a list? | almost witty — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:39:20 +0000

[...] So… the membership list for the British National Party (a far-right fascist party advocating the consensual repatriation for non-Europeans from British soil … oh, and giving the 2012 London Olympics back to Greece) has been leaked all over the Internet, and British geeks have been soiling themselves all day mashing the list. [...]

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Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:23:59 +0000

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