Direct from the streets of Gaza – Demotix is the UGC picture agency
by Mike Butcher
on December 30, 2008

Demotix, a new startup coming out of London, is taking a pretty interesting approach to reinventing the newswire and with the wave of news coming out of the Israel/Palestinian conflict right now it is coming into its own. If you ever wanted to know what life and death was like on the ground in the middle of a war, this is it.

The idea is simple: anyone can shoot video or photos at a news event like a protest and upload the content to the site. The site only takes photos right now but text and video are due soon. Everyone who uses Demotix will keep the copyright and the right to remove the images from the website. The non-exclusive images will be sold for anywhere from between $150- $3,000, and videos will be sold by $500-$1,000/minute. Demotix shares 50 percent of the revenue from each sale with the person who contributed the content. Demotix has six-full time staff members and six full-time interns. The site has launched in Beta but in the next fortnight launches a full version, along with an Arabic version.

Founded by Jonathan Tepper and CEO Turi Munthe, the latter is a former journalist who realised that with old media declining in revenues the consequent impact on on-the-spot reporting and investigative journalism is huge. In its place has come what he calls Churnism – re-publishing AP or Reuters-like wire stories and pulling journalists out of the world’s hot-spots because they are just too expensive to run. In 2007, there were only 141 U.S. foreign correspondents in print and broadcast media, and there are currently only four newspapers that maintain foreign bureaus (The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and the LA Times). In the UK, The Independent is in the process of cutting more than 60% of its staff, including 60 reporters.

Demotix doesn’t need to maintain a global network of staff reporters and its contributors get paid when it does. However, with many potential contributors living under repressive regimes, Demotix goes to some lengths to protect identities. Metadata inside photographs about the time of day or event or the owner are removed before the image is uploaded to the site. And the site uses a Tor system to scramble IP addresses from where photos are uploaded.

But the history of “UGC photo agencies” is patchy. Kyle MacRae founded a similar UGC picture agency in 2005 called Scoopt after realising that CNN’s coverage of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami had largely consisted of photographs or videos by people caught up in those horrific events. It also sold pictures direct to newspapers and magazines, splitting the fee 50/50 with the photographer. However the site ran out of steam, largely because the idea was pretty ahead of its time. Camera phones are only now common place in global hotspots. The site was bought by Getty Images last year and MacRae left to pursue other ventures. There are now other similar UGC photo agency sites. For instance, Yahoo runs You Witness News in partnership with Reuters.

However, Demotix might now get traction because the core technology – better cameraphones – is now commonplace.

And the content is pretty raw as you can see from this kind of imagery (warning NSFW) from Gaza, and above.

Munthe, an English-French-Swedish raised in London, has also worked at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies. His research into the radicalization of terrorism lead him to believe that the aggressive approach, such as sanctions and bombs, doesn’t work. He thinks the “civil society approach”, where populations are allowed to vent their frustration via media, works better and takes “the lid off the pressure cooker.” Who knows if social media can actually help, but the idea that the suffering of your community can be communicated to the world may be of some consolation, however limited.

The site’s name, Demotix, is derived from the word ‘demotic‘, meaning ‘of the people’, a description coined by the Greek historian Herodotus in the fifth century BC to describe the form of writing used and most easily understood by the man in the Alexandrian street in 196 BC.

Update: As a commenter below points out there is also a French start-up called CitizenSide (formerly Scooplive).

Update II: This post caused a lot of controversy because in its original form it showed some very graphic pictures from the Israel/Palestinian conflict happening at the moment. Something you’d expect when a war was happening. Unfortunately the detail of the post was lost in the debate about the appropriateness of the imagery, plus I was accused of favouring one side over another. This was profoundly not the intention, but it was clear I had stumbled unwittingly into a political area because the post largely carried pictures of Palestinians under siege and no pictures of Israelis under rocket attacks. Unfortunately this was not done to favour one side – I simply couldn’t find any of the latter kinds of pictures on the site, simply because no Israelis had uploaded any at that time. This is clearly a failing of a picture agency which relies purely on user-generated content, in that it leaves it to “the crowd” to gather the footage – and the crowd is not usually out to be balanced. I’ve now removed the imagery, other than the original, to illustrate the piece.

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  • http://diarRHEOTRICS.com geo geller

    excellent idea – this is the answer to the parallel universe of online vs the gate keepers where online will win out and the social revolution of the people and by the people will have their own news reporting systems –
    “This I hope will be the age of experiments in government, and that their basis will be founded in principles of honesty, not of mere force.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1796

    “ We are to guard against ourselves; not against ourselves as we are, but as we may be; for who can imagine what we may become under circumstances not now imaginable – Thomas Jefferson to Jedidiah Morse 1822 ”

    “Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe.” –Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816.

    “Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it.” — Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786

    “Lethargy is the forerunner of death to the public liberty.” – -Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787.

    “The art of printing secures us against the retrogradation of reason and information.” –Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Paganel, 1811.

    more thomas jefferson quotes can be seen here too
    http://emperorsnewclothesproductions.com/jefferson

    be well

    geo

  • James

    Mike

    Does Demotix have photos of hundreds of Palestinians cheering in Gaza after London’s July 7 bombings? Or after 9/11? Or of the four Israelis who died in the past few days from rockets shot from Gaza (which Israeli withdrew from in 2005)?
    I tried but for some reason couldn’t find any photos. Maybe because it’s yet another site with a biased agenda?

    I think you should continue to cover the non-existing UK tech scene over sharing with us your biased opinions and sites about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    James

  • Commentor12312

    Wouldn’t it have been good to actually buy the images for the post instead of stealing them? Considering that Techcrunch makes a lot of money I think its very wrong.

  • http://pageman.wordpress.com The Pageman

    you meant Gaza right (NOT Gazza)

  • PeaceOut!

    I think this is awesome. I am tired of the official BS from CNN and even the BBC fails to touch or cover. Sometimes I find my beloved Economist staying fine tuned mindset that is biased towards certain govts and friends. Also, hopefully will avoid being excessively slanted one side or the other. Some news organizations will be accused of being non objective as well even though they might have good reporting. Governments may no longer hide behind public releases and statements that conflict with the reality on the ground.

    Hopefully this will lead to a different way the public will see/view real events for themselves and actually think and make informed decisions that may affect exactly what they support or they will tolerate.

    The power should belong to the citizens of the world rather than rigid govt admins that have agendas that may conflict with peace and prosperity for selected groups they oppose or fail to address.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    James – Demotix is a London-based tech startup. I cover UK and European based tech startups for TechCrunch. Since Demotix only just launched it doesn’t have any pictures related to July 7 2005 etc but I’m sure it will take pictures from both sides of any conflict in the future. It is a business, after all.

  • Fuck You

    ANTI – SEMITE

  • sw

    That’s just because the “market” price of that photos and news is lower than the Gaza ones.
    And (#Mike Butcher) it’s important to note that other countries and cultures doesn’t give out photos of the dead.

  • http://blogs.msdn.com/SublimaCtion/ Christophe Lauer [MS]

    Well as I understand it, the model is very close from the well established French start-up called CitizenSide (formerly Scooplive) which is also based on trading UCG pictures and films, paying authors of pictures and keeping a fee on the price.

    They’ve become very famous in France by selling the first and only video of the Societe Generale’s trader Jerome Kerviel :
    http://www.editorsweblog.org/web_20/2008/01/france_citizenside_sells_amate.php

    More details here:
    http://www.citizenside.com/index.aspx?lan=en

  • Omer van Kloeten

    Wonderful – a new tool to spread propaganda. Has anyone else noticed there’s no verification of authenticity for any of these photos?

    Also, the fact that the bias is spread so widely throughout the site (and also the fact that an Arabic version is planned, but no Hebrew version) shows me that anyone taking images from this site is wide open to a libel lawsuit. Were I a member of the press – I would think twice before using these photos.

    One last thing – Mike, do you really think these images are appropriate on this website? Honestly – I could come up with 50 other images that would be much better. I’d appreciate it if you could stop imposing your political opinion on the rest of us.

  • Dan

    Mike, it’s really a shame you chose to show these images,do you think that it will be fair to criticize a startup without giving it a chance to reply. When Michael writes a post about a technological conflict he always publish the opinions of both sides. when you published the images you only show one side of the story, if you don’t have an image of the Israeli dead just show different images that don’t concern this conflict. Where is your journalist integrity… I’m also very disappointed of Erick that allowed you to publish these images. It doesn’t matter what side are you on you should be able to see what is happening on both ends of the “rope”. Shame on you Mike especially where there is no place for these kind of images on a technological blog.

  • http://effi.fuks.co.il Effi Fuks

    As a dedicated TechCrunch reader, i find your argument that you “only covered a startup” while more than 75% (!) of this article space is filled by horror pictures of dead kids- *ridiculous and disgusting* . You might think your readers a so naive not to notice the obvious sub-statements in this post. At least don’t try to BS me with this pretending to be “business as usuall” post.

    (Disclaimer: yeah, I’m Israeli. no, I most certainly don’t justify the targeting of civilians, and I find the photos in this post tragic. Yeah, I’m very concerned by your aberrant attempt to drag TechCrunch into the political swamp)

  • http://total.eclipse.co.il/ Shay

    These images are NSFW.

    For a site like Techcrunch, which I regularly check from work, you might want to avoid images of dead children.

    ktnxbye

  • http://giveupinternet.com GiveUpInternet.com

    “Detachment” needed for long time surive.

  • http://www.jamaica21andover.com Nick

    I think this is wrong, how can you be showing, no selling images of the dead. Is there no respect, thats why some cultures do not publicize this because we have respect.

  • http://yarinhochman.com/ Yarin Hochman

    Everyone should have a look at : http://www.sderotmedia.com

    For a true coverage and videos from the Hamas attacks on Israel !

    That is UGC, a joint citizen journalism website

  • Human

    This is amazing how you people trading blood! you should change your name so ‘blood 2.0″. Techcrunch, you will loose a lot of readers because of it. but i can understand you. what moves you it’s money, not justice or education.

  • PookieBadMuffin

    Mike, you’re a gullible nitwit.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    The images of dead babies describe real events. If people don’t want to know what’s going on in the real world perhaps they should stick to reading stories about Twitter? I think you guys are right about balance, so I’m adding some pictures to reflect that.

  • Dan

    I think that this paragraph:

    “including an Israeli air strike on one of the mosques in southern Jabalia which caused the death of 5 young sisters of the Al Balosha family. No one survived but the parents, their elder daughter and son.”

    HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STARTUP!

  • http://Hamasnotplayinggames George
  • Jackson

    This startup deserves coverage and deserves to be commended.

    Stop trying to politicize everything.

    Remember, it is the pictures of the holocaust which finally got people to ralise the true horrors of what happened.

    Innocent people dying, innocent families dying, innocent children dying and innocent parents dying is an issue beyond politics. It is a human issue.

    We are all humans.

  • Gayle

    Yep – except those little ones ARE dead!!!

    Look away if you choose but asking TC to censor the ugliness of this week’s events when such images legitimately appear via the showcasing of a new media business seems (at best) cheeky.

  • Harry

    I think it’s a good idea that witnesses are now able to take pictures and share them with the rest of the world. For example, I didn’t see any pictures or news on this story – the first death of a Palestinian in the West BanK after the attacks in Gaza – excepts : on this page of Citizenside.com

  • Paul

    Yes, they have a habit of doctoring photos, having people pose as wounded in photos, etc. anything they can do to pull the heartstrings of the west.

  • Gayle

    Mike – I just replied to “Shay” and then saw this post by you.

    There was absolutely nothing out of balance about the original post….. ?!?!?!

  • sw

    “If people don’t want to know what’s going on in the real world perhaps they should stick to reading stories about Twitter?”

    I was thinking TechCrunch was about technology, there exists zillion of sites to discuss about politics before Twitt…

    So you want to know how the real world is? Go Fight! instead of write. You have time to go to Gaza and speak with Hamas instead of writing from your comfortable office.

    I have not seen your photos from the Mumbai Attack in TechCrunch, just an article about Twitter…

  • Paul

    Yes, just as it was a human issue with Hamas attacked Israel. I don’t like seeing innocent people hurt in either case, but where was the outcry then?

  • http://effi.fuks.co.il Effi Fuks

    the most ironic thing about this specific incident is an interview made with one of it’s survivors:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLIdxF-GHWw

    Mike, you want praise raw unedited uncensored media? you’ve got it.

    This is the ultimate proof of you being a victim of an organized propaganda. I’ll say it again: Using this platform to spread untrue subjective one sided photos in a middle of a conflict – disgraces TechCrunch as a professional blog.

  • Gayle

    Oh FFS……… and there’s no genocide happening in Darfur, no rape (as a tool of war) happening in Congo and Sarah Palin was just pretending to be thick.

    And Eric Arthur Blair didn’t have a crystal ball.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Effi Fuks – Look, this is a story about a tech startup and it would make zero sense to write about it without mentioning what they do and the kind of stuff they carry, period. What is happening in the Middle East right now is a prime example of what social media is going to do there, and this is a story about that. Please note I have included reference to recent acts of clemency by Israel, a story Demotix covered.

  • http://www.simonkapenda.org Simon Kapenda

    This is great site; I see it becoming an instant target for acquisition, within a year.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    No one cheered when the bombing happened … get ur fing facts right and stop making shit up. Gaza has nothing to do with al Qaeda … Hamas want their land back … al Qaeda r US CIA ops (cold-war … remember?)

  • Sam Erican

    Great, now techcrunch teams with Aljazeera, what comes next?

  • RoyK

    There’s a comic I really like in Calvin & Hobbes, where Calvin cleans a small part of his room and takes a picture, so future generations will think he was a neat and organized little boy.

    Publishing harsh media without context is not just a bad idea, it’s (in my opinion) criminally irresponsible.

    And you will not see Israelis publishing pictures of their dead children to gain a little edge here and there.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    Great site and all people hating about the pictures … guess what? Those are babies and they didn’t shoot rockets at “israel”

    300 + killed from air strikes while 1 dead from a rocket (HOME MADE ROCKET).

    I understand Hamas Is sending thousands of rockets … but they don’t much damage.

    The startup is a good idea but rarely anything happens in the UK for me to use it.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    Great site and all people hating about the pictures … guess what? Those are babies and they didn’t shoot rockets at “israel”

    300 + killed from air strikes while 1 dead from a rocket (HOME MADE ROCKET).

    I understand Hamas Is sending thousands of rockets … but they don’t much damage.

    The startup is a good idea but rarely anything happens in the UK for me to use it.

  • Daniel Hegarty

    This seems a pretty tasteless use of these kind of images. Whether Palestintian or Israeli, it seems purposefully insensitive to use imagery like this for the coverage of a small business concern or the promotion of any kind of non-relevant blog.

    The thing that seems most upsetting to me is that it probably didn’t even occur to Mike Butcher that using these images would be problematic. With an endless supply of information and imagery we rely on the content generators we respect to extend some sort of self-censorship with regards to an issue like this, but we’ve all been so de-sensitized that it doesn’t even register.

  • Hypocrites

    It is so populist and simplistic to boil down a complex conflict into an emotional picture of human suffering. It’s a WAR, people die, including innocents, even when not targeted.

    How many civilians have the Americans and Europeans killed in Afghanistan and Iraq? 10,000′s, maybe 100,000′s?

    When a terrorist entity uses a civilian area for cover, it is both legally and morally responsible for their deaths. Do you think the Israelis are some kind of Gods with magic weapons that ask everyone “Hey, who are you” before exploding?

    Statistically speaking, the amount of ‘civilians’ killed in Gaza (especially considering the population density) is very small, showing much greater care and capability in avoiding civilian deaths than anything the Americans and Europeans are doing in their current wars. Yet, everyone reports the suffering of innocent Palestinians as if they were the targets of the Israelis.

    That’s called 2 standards, one for the world and another for Jews. Anti-Semitism in its purest form.

    Israel, don’t listen to what the world says… the same world that lets genocide continue unchecked in Sudan, puts countries like Libya on the UN Human Rights Council and has not been a friend to Jews for the last 3000 years. It’s especially fresh to hear Europeans, responsible for the worst crime in the history of mankind (only a few decades ago), lecture you on how to run your affairs.

    Kill the terrorists, keep trying to avoid civilian casualties where possible and end this once and for all. Please, return some sanity to this fucked up world.

  • Tzahi

    This article is A HUGE BLACK SPOT (or whatever describes a very unsuitable event) for techcrunch and just shows that it doesn’t matter if it’s traditional media or internet – human beings will always be biased.

    You don’t have a clue what’s going on here in Israel and it wouldn’t help you to show dead children – you will never reach the truth this way.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Daniel Hegarty – Exactly how do you cover a story about a site that carries graphic imagery without illustrating what it does? I think a lot of people here who are annoyed about the images are probably not used to the kind of images that appear in the European media – broadcast, print and online – every day.

  • http://total.eclipse.co.il Shay

    …and here I thought TechCrunch would be a great place to read stories about twitter, to be frank.

    If I wanted to see stories about dead babies, I can surf over to 4chan or something.
    Only I don’t do that at work, do I, because it would be pretty inappropriate to the work environment.

    You could have chosen images from the conflict that were a bit less gruesome, that’s all I said and all I’m going to say about it.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Tzahi – I just want this post to be a bigger “blackspot”, as you call it, than this:

    http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/11/quite-simply-the-best-commercial-ever-made/

    It’s good to have goals in life I think.

  • http://total.eclipse.co.il Shay

    What pictures of the holocaust caused public outcry? What the hell are you talking about. The holocaust went on uninterrupted until the very bitter end.

  • http://total.eclipse.co.il Shay

    Don’t do much damage..? So I guess you wouldn’t mind living in a place where dozens of mortars and rockets are fired at every day? Sounds like a piece of heaven to you? Living in fear? Constantly keeping a lookout for the nearest bomb shelter? Once in a while some kid loses a leg or a sibling? Yeah, you’re right, no biggie.

  • Adam Larkin

    I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. As Mike has pointed out, he wrote about a new tech startup and he included the pictures that he did because they’re relevant and current – I for one see no political motive behind his choice of pictures.

    Let’s not make this an israel vs palestine thread. There are plenty of places on the web for that.

  • Uzi

    These kids don’t look dead to me.
    The color of the skin and the smile on the faces looks suspicious to me.
    Did you check the source of these photos?
    As for TC is proud for having around 10 million readers, you should be more responsible for what you post.

  • Anderson

    3 years they shelled it from the south,
    3 years Israel did nothing. Bunch of overeducated hippies.

    Retaliation is a bitch.

  • Jason

    Hi,

    Check this video that made me cry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomb-I1JjkA

  • joel

    I find it interesting that many of the comments – certainly those with the most intense reactions – refer to either the content of the imagery or the ability of the images to provide a perceived balance of coverage of the event. Without other context, the imagery is open to any kind of interpretation.

    I would hope that sites like Demotix prompt organized discussion and debate. Structuring text and media in a way that presents such charged information without becoming a propaganda tool or simply a huge mess will be an enormous challenge. But even if they don’t succeed, can they be faulted for trying to inform and involve the world?

  • damon

    When you all cover zivity, you don’t put the full nudity pics on the site, why?

    My guess, just general good taste, and those photos are not needed to make the points of the post.

    Same should apply here I would think.

    Showing pics of dead babies/kids is certainly not needed to make the point of this story or startup.

  • Alex

    “That’s called 2 standards, one for the world and another for Jews. Anti-Semitism in its purest form. ”

    Now that you point it out, that is exactly right. Why is it that jews have their own special category of “anti-semitism” while the rest of the world doesn’t? Unfortunately these days you can not discuss anything related to the actions and policies in Israel without this ridiculous and increasingly useless word being tossed about.

  • A.

    Michael Arrington, you should lay off Mike Butcher.

  • http://techentreprise.com heri

    Palestinians are also semites

  • zak

    Another victim of pallywood staged propaganda..
    http://www.google.com/search?q=pallywood

    How sad to see it on this site..

  • zak

    so true!
    I’m not expert in dead bodies but second girl is happily smiling and the first one, the closest to the camera – has bondage with not her blood – note how the blood is only on one side…
    it is so badly fake!
    spread the images and it will show the truth

  • http://www.makeitdigi.com Negative Photos

    James, I don’t believe you published those photos.

    If you don’t notice, you are cooperating with Hamas, The terror organization, propaganda. Those miserable kids died while Israel air force bomb Hamas bases which were located near civilian houses. The hamas shoot from schools while knowing that when Israel will hit back palestenian will be killed and that fantastic pictures they can show in the media.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    What about Gaza?
    I don’t want to live with rockets and bomb shelter but the air strikes do more damage … more than a leg or a siblings

    Ppl in Gaza live in fear and they don’t have the luxury of keeping a lookout for bomb shelter … coz there’s none

    This Arab/Jewish thing has been going on since the beginning of time.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    WOW you guys need to get your dicks out of ur arse
    Everything is fake init … so what if she is smiling? Shes in a better place

    Ur guys r sick

  • Dan Berg

    Mike, I think you can ‘cover a story about a site that carries graphic imagery without illustrating what it does’ if you’re capable of illustrative writing. I think you are capable but in this instance you chose the easy and unimaginative way.

  • http://blog.ivanpope.com Ivan Pope

    I know some people don’t want these sort of pictures from Gaza shown. The Israeli government doesn’t want them shown – that’s why they are stopping journalists entering Gaza.
    Mike covers startups. This is a startup. Do you want to stay in your bubble, not let the real world intervene?
    I can guarantee that there will be pictures from the Israeli side when there are deaths there. I’ve seen plenty of pictures over the years of bits of bodies after suicide bombers.
    Seems like a good idea to bring this sort of thing to your attention. Sure, you may have a political view one way or another – but why not let an article on Techcrunch go by without jumping all over it. It’s not exactly the BBC now, is it?

  • http://temerarious.co.uk/ Dominic Travers

    Mike, you have hit a very polar issue here.
    I think you are totally right to post about Demotix and illustrate this with the full strength images the company carries.

    You’ll see that the Guardian caries a very strong set of images from Gaza today. I am a firm believer that the strongest images from these conflicts should be carried by the media so everyone can see the extent of the conflict. It’s just a shame that Iraq and Afghanistan don’t have the same level of snappers, amateur and pro on the ground. Now perhaps the USA could release the footage of their unmanned drone attacks in Pakistan on YouTube. That would be progress.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/dec/28/gaza-attacks-israel-palestine?picture=341149884

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  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Due to the fact that everyone ended up talking about the image of three dead babies and not about the Demotix startup, I have swapped it out with one of the mother and a dead child from the same story. This is less arresting but makes the same point in relation to the kind of imagery Demotix will carry. I am a father myself and I was not out to offend readers, but you must be aware that when you read about a picture agency which carries war photography you are going to see some pretty strong images. Unfortunately we see photos like this every day in the UK and European press. Readers from elsewhere may be less used to this kind of thing.

    And frankly, as I have said before, I didn’t see any point in covering this story without illustrating the post in that fashion, and Gaza is the big story in the media right now. A UGC picture agency seems well placed right now, given world events.

    So to conclude: So far almost all the comments have been about the images, not about the UGC picture agency, so I’ve decided to change the main picture in an attempt to re-focus this story on the startup.

    If you have any salient points to make about the fact that a UGC picture agency will share 50% of its revenue with its users please make them now. If you would like to discuss politics then feel free, that’s your choice.

    Mike Butcher
    Editor
    TechCrunch UK

  • Lee Bryant

    Thanks for covering this Mike and braving the inevitable polarised reactions. The real world is a difficult place, and a site like Demotix is worth covering during a time when the whole issue of media coverage and attempts to control it is so central to what the Israeli military machine is doing to Palestinians.

    There is some good coverage on the BBC from Jeremy Bowen about the Israeli military’s attempts to ensure there is as little media coverage from Gaza as possible. This is precisely the kind of situation, then, where citizen journalism has a role to play. Good or bad, old notions of balance (e.g. showing 1 photo from each “side” as some commenters have suggested, despite a casualty ratio of about 150:1) and “objectivity” (which has probably never existed) are not as important as they were in the past when media was more tightly controlled.

    Journalists who have covered the occupation of Palestine tell countless tales of the legal, political and sometimes physical bullying they face when trying to cover the story, and this has resulted in newspapers taking a far more circumscribed line towards Israeli aggression than towards any comparable situation. Sadly, the same forces also marginalise moderate Israeli voices (of which there are many).

    Successful startups in this space are all about finding strong use cases for the technology, and I think Demotix have done so here. It would be interesting to learn more about the business model and how they can overcome the problems similar agencies have faced in the past, but for now they are worth watching, I think.

    (puts tin hat on) ;-)

  • http://blog.bibrik.com Rachel

    Glad you explained that you had swapped the pictures – I was trying to work out what the commenters were referring to.

    When I look at the pictures here, the other’s on Demotix or in the Guardian, all I see is people. it matters not which ‘side’ they belong to (and children never start off on a side).

    A start-up that allows people to show what is happening to other people, especially if the BBC is correct and official journalistic coverage is being reduced is always good, as in most cases photojournalists are not around. I’ve supplied images to UGC news sites before (Yahoo and NowPublic) but there was never any mention of payment. One key risk they face is that there is an expectation of news agencies now that they can get all these images for free – either by asking for them OR just by taking them from sites. Here’s hoping that the idea works.

  • Rudy

    Thanks for the share mike. great find.
    unfortunately, u have to live in america to understand the jews. anything not in their favor is anti-semit. there is no such a thing as free press over here. if it is not in favor of that shit hole israel then it is not worth broadcasting. internet sure is a creepy place isn’t it?

  • http://www.twidox.com Nicholas

    I actually love the idea; I think the time is right for this kind of start-up. Also, any website that uses the power of the internet to (finally) allow people across the world to earn money must be great (if that is by selling pictures of dead children is a totally different story which I don’t want to get into).

    If Demotix can stay neutral and avoid becoming a propaganda site, they have a winner on their hands.

  • http://www.noodlepie.com Graham

    Good luck to Demotix. Looks like they’re getting some good footage out of Gaza. However, I’m not convinced there is a truly scalable, financial model for a business like this.

    I ended up working with Kyle and Jill on Scoopt some six months or so after they launched it in 2005. Maybe Scoopt were a bit too early on this scene and maybe Demotix have the timing right, but Demotix will need to do more than just sell a few pics to the MSM to make it work.

    Lots of lessons to be learned in the UGC space by trawling Kyle’s thoughts post-Getty sale.

    http://www.scunnered.com/?cat=9

    Although you may want to quickly click through to this one first…

    http://www.scunnered.com/?p=45

    Interestingly, I made my first Scoopt sale on a pic a few weeks back. So, indeed, maybe the time is right :)

  • Dan

    Members of the UK business community have to realize that public opinion outside of the UK is very different from what they are used to. I work with companies in the US EU Asia and Israel, I try to avoid going into politics as much as I can. remarks that might seem to be acceptable in the Anti Israeli British society, might be regarded as unacceptable and maybe even racist in the US and other places in the EU.

  • http://www.webtransplant.com Evan Rudowski

    I’m an American who’s been in the UK for nearly 11 years now. I’ve known Mike Butcher for most of that time and he is a lovely and hard-working guy although I can’t say I’ve ever debated politics with him.

    However I think Mike hits the nail on the head when he makes this point:

    “I think a lot of people here who are annoyed about the images are probably not used to the kind of images that appear in the European media – broadcast, print and online – every day.”

    And he’s right. The UK and European media are filled with these kinds of images — more often of Palestinian than of Israeli suffering. Some people would view this as a bias and some people would view it as proportionate to the amount of suffering on the two sides. I tend to view it as a bias myself, particularly in terms of how the causes of suffering are described (no one denies the suffering).

    However because this approach is commonplace here I suspect that Mike, being a British journalist, did not perceive anything particularly wrong with this depiction. He may not have fully appreciated what a different view his non-European audience is likely to have.

    I happen to think the choice of imagery and description in the article was somewhat biased, not because I think Mike himself is biased or lacks a sense of fairness, but rather because I think he was naturally reflecting the norm of mainstream journalistic coverage here in the UK.

    Kind regards,
    Evan Rudowski

  • Dan

    This is exactly what I tried to explain in my former comment.

  • http://M2Mz.com M2Mz

    Do we really want to see this?

    Isn’t this low, making money off people’s misery.

  • http://Demotix Jonathan Tepper

    Hi, I’m the Chief Operating Office for Demotix. Demotix has no agenda. We’re not pro-Palestinian or pro-Israeli. We’re an open platform that posts photos that come from legitimate sources. Why do we have so many photos of dead Palestianians? It is simple: we’ve got a lot more photos from Palestinians than from Israelis.

    I encourage any Israelis to upload photos to us of missiles hitting Israel to upload to us. If we get them we will post them. Please encourage anyone with photos to upload to us.

    Best,
    Jonathan

    jonathan [@] demotix.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aarthi-Shrivas/1608221326 Aarthi Shrivas

    Not sure if we want to see these images…

  • http://paulfwalsh.com Paul Walsh

    @Evan Rudowski – I couldn’t agree more. Well said.

  • http://en.sababadc.com SDC
  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    Amen so true, wot happened to freedom of speech?? or that only works one way.

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    The images get better broadcast E.g, newspapers. The people want to share their misery … maybe people can stop that misery

  • http://nekrif.com Wun

    talk for yourself
    its no we its YOU

  • http://www.muchosmedia.com Stefan Richter

    @Mike – I understand that you’d like to refocus the crowds and get them to talk about Demotix. But seriously, how significant is the business model of a UK startup next to such images?

    I am German, having lived in the UK for almost 10 years and I am used to the media here and in other parts of Europe. But that doesn’t give me immunity from being affected by these images. And after seeing them I doubt anyone will be in the mood to discuss any business model, not even that of this obviously promising startup.

  • Matt Garrett

    Was it really necessary to post pictures of dead children to make your point? and I noticed they are ALL Palestinians. how about pictures of Israeli children who have been murdered during the history of the Arab/Israeli conflict? Why not pictures of bombed out buses and pizzarias? I can already see the one-sided slant here that makes your post doubly offensive.

  • http://total.eclipse.co.il Shay

    Thanks for changing the images, Mike.
    Despite your European sensibilities, I really can’t see how you’d think images of dead babies would not offend some readers. Obviousy, that’s not just me.

    As per the startup itself, I’m a big proponent of sousveillance – subverting cameras for the public good.

    However, as others have mentioned, even well established journalists in major media have occasionally blundered on fakes. We put it to good faith and their professional integrity that they do their very best to make sure what they report is true. Even then, more often then we care to admit it, major media fails to report the truth-the-whole-truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth. What kind of trust in authenticity can we have from folks media?
    This is the major challenge, as I see it for Demotix.

  • http://www.scunnered.com Kyle MacRae

    Echoing and expanding upon Graham’s thoughts above:

    * While it’s relatively easy (with good PR, luck and timing) to attract decent content from around the world, it’s very VERY much harder to sell it. Picture editors won’t come to Demotix looking for pics – they’ll expect to be spoon-fed content prepared to industry standards as per all the other commercial agencies (which is why Spymedia.com, with its passive user-priced gallery model, failed).

    * One problem is managing the expectations of contributors. They will, far more often than not, be disappointed when they submit a decent pic. It won’t sell and they’ll wonder why not. Though that said, most wannabe Demotix contribs will wait the rest of their lives for something interesting to happen… and those that do get lucky will inevitably fail to upload pics quickly enough to make a sale… or will caption their content insufficiently… or will otherwise blow their chances.

    * How do you expose Demotix to potential contributors in order to grow the business? Who IS the ideal contributor? Anyone with a cameraphone? That is, everyone, everywhere? Try writing a marketing plan for that!

    * The odd hit/hot pic doesn’t make a business. Prices for editorial content are currently appalling.

    * Crucially, there simply isn’t enough marketable ‘news’ that isn’t already being covered by the pros (even in a shrinking journalism market) to sustain a UGC business model that derives its primary revenue for image/video sales. Really, there isn’t.

    But good luck to Demotix all the same. CitizenSide, otoh, remains a joke. Amused to see that come of its FAQs are STILL copy-and-pasted from Scoopt :-)

  • http://www.demotix.com Turi

    Hi – I’m Turi, the CEO of Demotix, and I want to come in to back Mike 100% for using what were the lead images of the site this morning.
    These are real pictures, by real people, of real events. This is what war looks like.
    As many others have understood here, if we had those images from the Israeli side, they too would have been posted with no editorial intervention from our side. Thanks for the link to sderot media.
    Part of the point of Demotix is precisely to provide a space in which news that’s otherwise excluded from the mainstream media gets a voice. And if that is real pictures of war, so be it. You’ll also see we have 100s of other stories, unreported and unreportable by the mainstream media – of TB in Uganda’s prisons (http://www.demotix.com/en/2008/12/19/tb-ugandas-prison-system), or of police brutality in La Habana (http://www.demotix.com/en/2008/12/24/police-brutality-again-central-habana) – for the simple reason that nobody is there to cover them.
    And here’s where, I believe, things get interesting. Yes, with locals reporting local events you get bias, but you also get the local perspective, which is often a whole lot more informative than the outside view – especially if you credit your audience with knowing how to ‘read’ news.
    Less punditry, less ‘parachute journalism’ (shipping top Western correspondents over to the hot zone for 24 hours and expecting them to tell you the truth), less comment from afar, and in their stead, local stories, local pictures, local videos telling the story from the ground up.

  • Roger Snowden

    Brilliant idea! Yet another way to monetize terror. All you have to do is provoke a riot, with handycam in hand. Upload and get rich!

    Be sure to get plenty of closeups of gore. Gore sells!

  • John

    Excellent idea,

    Let those criminals be disgraced by showing their crimes to the whole world.

    J.

  • http://camera.org/ Canard

    Of course it’s the UK editor who goes and hijacks techcrunch with the longest post I’ve seen in years to peddle his propaganda under the guise of doing his job (which apparently has something to do with covering tech startups).

    I doubt that startup or you would post pictures of Israeli children killed in suicide bombings or rocket attacks that intentionally target civillians (by Hamas’s own declaration) rather than the regretable outcome of Israel attacking Hamas military infrastructure, soldiers and police. You have no problem with Hamas’s war crimes and terrorism, but you’re bothered by the death of Palestinian civillians during Israel’s retaliation against that organization’s military establishment. Typical antisemitic tripe with a tasteless British flavor.

    http://www.jcpa.org/text/puzzle1.pdf

  • http://camera.org Canard

    Your attempts at feigning innocense are as outrageous as they are pathetic. What a canard this whole post is.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html

  • http://jaimeestevez.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/dia-68-propositos-emprendedores-para-el-2009/ día 68: propósitos emprendedores para el 2009 « jaime estévez

    [...] un ‘domotix’ en [...]

  • Sharon

    Sorry to disappoint you, you are not going to have ppl sending gory images from the Israeli side, for the same reason you did not see any gory images in the media after the London or Madrid terror attacks. In western civilization there is respect for ppl’s privacy even if they’re wounded or dead, the media in EU might display these images when they are taken in the third world, there’s no way they’ll display such pictures of dead Europeans.

  • Eric

    Arab/Jewish thing has been going on since the beginning of time is a bunch of BS!

    FYI there are ARAB JEWS! In syria/lebanon/egypt and even in guess what PALESTINE!

    B4 the creation of the state of ISrael in 1948 what do you think the Jews were called?? Palestinian

    They ate arabic food, spoke arabic and even have the same culture.

    But guess what happened???? the european jews decided they wanted palestine for themselves and in the early 1900′s with the help of the british started slowly migrating to palestine.

    The palestinians are not defined by a religion. These are muslims, christians, druz being oppressed by Israel.

    Israel is a racist state, only jews can be citizens. Everyone else must live as a second class citizen.

    You should check history b4 u open your mouth.

  • Eric

    Arab/Jewish thing has been going on since the beginning of time is a bunch of BS!

    FYI there are ARAB JEWS! In syria/lebanon/egypt and even in guess what PALESTINE!

    B4 the creation of the state of ISrael in 1948 what do you think the Jews living in palestine were called?? Palestinian

    They ate arabic food, spoke arabic and even have the same culture.

    But guess what happened???? the european jews decided they wanted palestine for themselves and in the early 1900’s with the help of the british started slowly migrating to palestine.

    The palestinians are not defined by a religion. These are muslims, christians, druz being oppressed by Israel.

    Israel is a racist state, only jews can be citizens.

    I suggest everyone to research the conflict for themselves and realize the pain the palestinians have endured for 60 years!!!!

  • Eric

    We gave Israel 2.5 Billion dollars in aid in 2008. That’s 2.5 billion for 6 million people. We have given Israel 114 billion since 1948.

    On top of the money, we have vetoed over 30 UN resolutions against Israel.

    Seems outrageously one sided to me.

    Is it fair that Israel punish the 1.5 million Palestinians for 18 months by not allowing any food, blocking energy, UN aid just because they chose Hamas over corrupt Fatah?

    Is it fair that Israel build a wall(ive seen with my own eyes) that goes outside of Israel and takes 40% of the West Bank? That’s like us building a wall that takes up 40% of Mexico for “security”.
    Israel doesn’t want peace, they want a piece.

    Is it fair that the Palestinian people live under martial law for the last 40 years with no control of their land, sea or water?

  • Gandhi on Palestine

    . my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. … Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?

    … if [the Jews in Palestine] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb.

    I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regarded as an unwarrantable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds.

    If I were a Jew and were born in Germany and earned my livelihood there, I would claim Germany as my home even as the tallest gentile German might… I would refuse to be expelled or to submit to discriminating treatment

  • Ben

    Palestinians DID cheered aftet 9/11 and july bombings:
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/860nntcv.asp?pg=1

    HAMAS and TALIBAN has MANY THINGS IN COMMON – One of them is the “dar al-harb”, the kiilings of all people living under non-Islamic rullings until Muslim rullings is installed.
    http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/559370

    “FREEDOM” to Gaza right now means “KILL ALL GAY, LESBIAN” and “KILL EVERY JEW” as said in Hamas’ charter from 1988.

    READ THE FACTS. If Israel will lose, London is next…

  • http://camera.org Gayle Hypocrite

    Right Gayle, and Israel just bombed those babies intentionally.
    Wait…they were actually targeting Hamas soldiers and police which is legal under
    international law during a conflict. OK, so Israel just went and bombed the Hamas military
    establishment out of pure belligerence because that’s what it always does.
    Wait…this military operation of Israel’s came after a week of stepped up Hamas rocket and
    mortar attacks that target Israeli civilians directly. Oh, and after Hamas unilaterally
    called off a 6 month long cease fire (a peaceful act, no doubt.)

    Ah, I forget, the death of civilians is only horrific if they happen to be Palestinian.
    “Will somebody please think of the babies” sounds awfully shrill when it comes from a
    hateful hypocrite like yourself. Or Mark Butcher.

  • http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html So Sensitive

    Right Gayle, and Israel just bombed those babies intentionally.
    Wait…they were actually targeting Hamas soldiers and police which is legal under
    international law during a conflict. OK, so Israel just went and bombed the Hamas military
    establishment out of pure belligerence because that’s what it always does.
    Wait…this military operation of Israel’s came after a week of stepped up Hamas rocket and
    mortar attacks that target Israeli civilians directly. Oh, and after Hamas unilaterally
    called off a 6 month long cease fire (a peaceful act, no doubt.)

    Ah, I forget, the death of civilians is only horrific if they happen to be Palestinian.
    “Will somebody please think of the babies” sounds awfully shrill when it comes from a
    hateful hypocrite like yourself. Or Mark Butcher.

  • http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html Canard

    Mike, claiming that a picture about a Palestinian terrorist released by israel from prison is somehow balance shows everybody just how biased you are. Balance would mean showing Israeli civilians killed in Hamas shelling, rocketing and suicide bombings, just as gruesome. Balance would be referring to UGC videos documenting how Israelis live under the constant threat of death with 15 seconds to take shelter, for years now, not just 4 days.

    You have an agenda, your post is propaganda, and you’re too much of a weasel to admit it. Simply reporting about a startup, indeed.

  • http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html Canard

    So your goal in life is what? being some pathetic imitation of a Guardian propagandist while your day job is covering technology?

    It is good to have goals in life. Maybe being honest about your agenda would be a good start.

  • http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html Canard

    Those images, mostly of dead Palestinian civilians, never Israeli ones (lucky if they show Israeli army casualties) appear in European media precisely because of their anti-Israeli bias, not because of their alleged fairness and quality of journalism.

    I know that in you’re mind your trying to educate the clueless American public about how awful Israel is and how pure Hamas is, but that simply teaches us that you, and many of your European media cohorts are propagandists with little to know understanding of the principles of journalism.

  • http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050421.html Canard

    Wow, Mike’s being so brave for aping what all other British journalists do, that is being an apologist for Palestinian terrorism while simultaneously being outraged at any military response to their actions.

    I think it’s the tinfoil hat you’ve been wearing.

  • Josh Rob

    I think Mike did a fine job and people like you Effi need to SHUT the F*&K up, quit being a looser and yes Israel your war is immoral and soon when Hamas can stick nukes on their rockets you guys will disappear, so you really need to be playing nice with your arab neighbors. Come to Texas and I’ll show you southern hospitality

  • RoyK

    Just a little clarification, Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with the “Semite race”, it is a term used SOLELY to describe a biased hate towards the Jewish people.
    Crank up a dictionary so you don’t look so ignorant next time, sheesh.

    And Demotix, thanks for encouraging us to send pictures of carnage and death. That’s a great way to promote your business.

  • Jon Doerr

    Mike,

    I think what everyone is trying to say is that you didn’t exercise very good (smart?) judgement in the way you wrote this article.

    Even when Mike was covering the pre-election issues for TC, he was always neutral no matter what gaffes or flash stories were popping up on a daily basis.

    By zeroing in on the dead Palestinians (which is a tragedy no matter which side you are on) you have taken a small snapshot of a much greater problem. The readers of this blog are here for technology but they will always have a political opinion – this just isn’t the right forum for it.

    Gaza is happening now, people are dying on both sides and emotions are very raw. Injecting this angle into a story about a potentially promising business just isn’t good judgement.

  • http://www.scunnered.com Kyle MacRae

    @RoyK and others – just a word in defence of Demotix. This company is positioned as a *news* agency. There are challenges aplenty with a UGC model of news gathering – verification, bias (intentional or otherwise), scale, and many others – but in that context it is, and has to be, perfectly valid to publish legitimate news imagery, including carnage and death, subject to whatever editorial guidelines and sensitivities the company cares to adopt. As indeed it’s perfectly valid for Mike to republish that imagery here in the context of reviewing a news org startup.

    (I say this as the guy who pulled Scoopt’s launch press release on July 7th 2005 because it coincided with 52 people being murdered in London. We had an image of Concorde ablaze on the home page and the connection between cash and content was too close for comfort on that occasion.)

  • Michael

    This “startup story” is a simple front for a political statement by Mike Butcher. This not a new hot startup in London — rather he decided to wrap his personal political views (an anti-Israel perspective) in a tech startup story.

    We should expect better from TechCrunch which last time I checked is a tech blog, not a political blog with an ideological perspective.

  • Movie Fan

    I for one think, Israel should kill all those arabs, get rid of every single one of them, then one day perhaps after 50 odd years we will get a famous director named abdel maged(perhaps) who will make movies about the “The New Holocaust” and we will have amazing movies to watch year after year, perhaps even some oscar and winners!!. I am so tired of same old same old anyways.

  • http://www.noodlepie.com Graham

    Mike, may I suggest Techcrunch take a leaf out of Guido’s book:

    http://www.order-order.com/2008/12/economics-of-blog-comments.html

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Ok, I think everyone’s had their say now. I’d like to thank everyone who contributed to the discussion about the merits or otherwise of a picture/video news agency which will run on user-generated contributions, which was what this story was about. The fact that it used imagery from the site was there to illustrate the rawness that this will entail. I think it’s also important to remember that because of the declining revenues in traditional media, news organisations will increasingly be unable to cover these kinds of stories. In the end, all we may have will be user generated content, from either side of any conflict. All there will be will be a flood of Twitter posts, blurry cameraphone pictures and video, and maybe a lone freelance journalist or enthusiastic blogger, flying in a day later. Perhaps that will be enough to alert to world to new wars, riots, protests, acts of barbarity. Let’s hope so.

  • http://innovationeye.wordpress.com/ Deirdre Molloy

    While revenue-sharing is a laudable idea, is their strategy (as a *business*) sustainable more generally, given what some experienced in this field (such as Kyle MacCrae’s point – “Picture editors won’t come to Demotix looking for pics – they’ll expect to be spoon-fed content prepared to industry standards as per all the other commercial agencies”) have said here in the comments?

    Lonely Planet are also venturing into the revenue-sharing field, paying amateur bloggers for content (see: http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-swn-lonely-planet-to-share-ad-revenue-with-amateur-travel-bloggers/ and http://inside-digital.blog.lonelyplanet.com/2008/11/14/working-with-bloggers/), but they’re a massive business, the website was originally subsidised by the long-established print part of the enterprise, plus now they’re part of BBC Worldwide, so one would expect they can afford to absorb the slight financial hit the rev-share element will precipitate.

    I agree that the ability of major publishers to cover events globally in detail is diminishing, but maybe it’s still too soon for Demotix to benefit..? I’d be interested to hear others thought on this.

  • http://dotmad.net/blog dotmad

    The problem is not with user generated content. The problem is with writers in “professional” media selecting some content over another to project their own views.
    You gave a wonderful example of the problem with old/centeralized media, pretending to be objective while being completely biased.

  • Eli D

    This post started out promising. The first few paragraphs were very informative about Demotix and UGC companies but then the paragraphs on the conflict weakened the flow and purpose of the post.

    It’s one thing to have these photos and to say where they’re from and make a brief reference to highlight your point, but to include statistics and personal stories and to emphasize THOSE has NOTHING to do with Demotix, just your opportunistic way to bring the conflict to technology and get more readers. If I wanted to read a political blog, I’d read the Huffington Post or something else. This article is a FAIL.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Eli D – The article is not a fail because the content the agency will carry is relevant to the topic of UGC. You also didn’t read it properly. There are no statistics here.

  • http://www.israelinnovation20.com/2008/12/30/direct-from-the-streets-of-gaza-and-israel-how-techcrunch-uks-post-could-have-read-about-ugc/ Direct from the streets of Gaza… and Israel. How TechCrunch UK’s post could have read about UGC : Israel Innovation 2.0

    [...] the site should expect an increase in hits and new program creators. In a politically-charged article about the “UGC photo agency” start up, Demotix, Mike Butcher of TechCrunch UK states [...]

  • http://iadiedee.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/gaza-12-30-08/ Gaza 12-30-08 « Thoughts by Dee – Open your mind, uncover your eyes, use your heart.

    [...] Direct from the streets of Gaza – Demotix is the UGC picture agency http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/12/30/direct-from-the-streets-of-gazza-demotix-is-the-ugc-picture-agency/ [...]

  • http://jmi7.ru/2008/12/%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b0%d1%80%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%bf-%d1%81%d0%ba%d1%83%d0%bf%d0%b8%d1%82-%d0%bb%d1%8e%d0%b1%d0%b8%d1%82%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8c%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%b8%d0%b5-%d1%84%d0%be%d1%82%d0%be JMI7.RU » Стартап скупит любительские фото из сектора Газа

    [...] Накаляющаяся ситуация в Газе способствовала появлению на свет нового стартапа под названиемDemotix. Британский сервис представляет новый тип фотоагентства, позволяющего любому желающему сделать снимок или снять видео и получить за это деньги, сообщает TechCrunch UK. [...]

  • http://www.periodismociudadano.com/2008/12/31/demotix-nos-acerca-directamente-a-la-calles-de-gaza/ Demotix nos acerca directamente a la calles de Gaza | Periodismo Ciudadano

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    [...] Накаляющаяся ситуация в Газе способствовала появлению на свет нового стартапа под названиемDemotix. Британский сервис представляет новый тип фотоагентства, позволяющего любому желающему сделать снимок или снять видео и получить за это деньги, сообщает TechCrunch UK. [...]

  • http://www.ukstevieb.com/2008/12/31/steviebs-shared-items-december-31-2008/ StevieB’s Shared Items – December 31, 2008 at Lost in Cyberspace

    [...] Direct from the streets of Gaza – Demotix is the UGC picture agencyDecember 30, 2008 [...]

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    This post has now been updated with the following:

    Update II: This post caused a lot of controversy because in its original form it showed some very graphic pictures from the Israel/Palestinian conflict happening at the moment. Something you’d expect when a war was happening. Unfortunately the detail of the post was lost in the debate about the appropriateness of the imagery, plus I was accused of favouring one side over another. This was profoundly not the intention, but it was clear I had stumbled unwittingly into a political area because the post largely carried pictures of Palestinians under siege and no pictures of Israelis under rocket attacks. Unfortunately this was not done to favour one side – I simply couldn’t find any of the latter kinds of pictures on the site, simply because no Israelis had uploaded any at that time. This is clearly a failing of a picture agency which relies purely on user-generated content, in that it leaves it to “the crowd” to gather the footage – and the crowd is not usually out to be balanced. I’ve now removed the imagery, other than the original, to illustrate the piece. Comments are now closed on the matter.

  • http://www.news.retletero.com/israeli-hamas-conflict-sparks-debate-over-demotix-and-citizen-journalism.htm Israeli-Hamas conflict sparks debate over Demotix and citizen-journalism | News in brief

    [...] If you haven’t yet read the article on Demotix over at TechCrunch, and the passionate discussion which followed, then check it out here. [...]

  • http://www.flypaper.tv/2009/01/09/news-stories-of-interest-this-week/ Flypaper.tv » Blog Archive » News Stories of interest this week….

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  • http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/08/03/disrupting-journalism-at-street-level-demotix-signs-deal-with-publish2/ Disrupting journalism at street-level – Demotix signs deal with Publish2

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