Comments on: When in doubt, launch an adult social networking site creator. Yes, that’ll work.

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By: Naomi Noway

Naomi Noway — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:11:00 +0000

I GUESS THE OPENING OF ZOCKU IS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE MONEY THESE DAYS WITH ADULT CONTENT. I don’t fancy SocialParody as while my site it GEARED toward adults I am not in the porn industry and don’t want to build my community around porn. NING need to keep it real and EMBRACE the ADULT part of their community work out a plan for creators to reasonably bear the bandwidth costs and splits the revenue 50/50 as far as traffic. That’s IMAO I think they are LOSING more money by kissing Google’s hyprocritical a** policies on adult content (which is really why most websites are steering clear of adult content, Google got them by balls and the don’t want to lose their market share of revenue or Google’s easy money). Dailymotion seems to have it right as adult content peacefully coexist with other genre and ads are being run through all their videos irrespective of content. I know for a fact they are not sharing any revenue with me for my videos but the ads are there anyways. I know this is the wave of the future no matter what kind of content you are promoting, advertisers are going to be where the traffic is. The entire internet needs to keep it real and stop trying to segregate the reality of adult content. I’m not saying Disney should now have adult stuff on there but any site open to the general public knows the general public will upload adult content and a stupid button verifying you’re 18 and over is not enough guard against children actually being exposed to porn. I tried unsuccessfully to build an adult community on several different social network platforms. ALL FELL FLAT as it relates to advertising which is the lifeblood of any successful website. The misnomer of “adult content” keeps many creative and talented website/community builders from capitalizing on the adult nature of their genre because of the choke hold advertisers have on that word. I have been waiting patiently many months, nearly a year, for ZOCKU to materialize and I guess the venturing into capital that is drying up for adult websites probably explains why its still not OPEN to the public as today’s date.

By: Twisted Talent

Twisted Talent — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:50:39 +0000

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This is big business for us granted it took a good few years to really kick off mainly due to the mobile boom and more people choosing to use there mobile handsets to browse the web. Over 3 to 4 years our registered number of users now total to over 15,000 with over 60,000 content items.

Our site allows people to upload there own content for people to download, each download that is made that person then take a percentage cut.

If there is a gap in the market then why not take advantage, people are in business to make money, not run things at a loss

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By: James Allen

James Allen — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:04:49 +0000

The problem with all of the social network platform sites that allow others to create a social networking site of there own is this, they charge a fee. Creating a social networking site should be totally free of charge with a revenue split 50/50 between the social network platform owner and persons who created a social networking site through there platform. If social network platform owners continue to charge others to create there own social networking site, they are going to eventually fold. Revenue sharing is the key to becoming success.

By: Mannago

Mannago — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:27:45 +0000

I am not sure why people are doubting the business of Adult porn. If you do your research correctly, targeting a micro-niche is not hard at all to make enough for a living. The market will never saturate and content will forever be available as long as mankind exists. Go look for your money keyword and you should be set, I dont believe in “harder to make money”, nothing is impossible in terms of finding ways to generate an income, especially from the porn industry!

By: adult facebook

adult facebook — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:49:31 +0000

I’d actually argue that the adult niche is getting overall harder to make money in. Adult social networking is an interesting idea, I guess we will see if it ever goes anywhere…

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:44:14 +0000

Whenever there is an opening/opportunity for money to be made someone will slip in to exploit it.

People who don’t like adult social networking sites or have a problem with all the new sites that are coming out, or any porn site for that matter simply need to stay away from them.

The adult industry is extremely profitable and people will try any way possible to make money from it.

Enough said

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By: Carl M

Carl M — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:53:15 +0000

Mike – You say “What clearly almost certainly happened was that SocialGo was a flop so they’ve switch the platform into the adult market. Fine. They’ll make money and so will their users. But it’s still a climbdown.”

Ok – I guess you have some insight that I do not. I guess that you know how many networks they have, what % are paying for the SocialGO premium services and if you have a handle on their cash burn that would be great too…

If not, please don’t be so forceful in your comments because people less perceptive than I may take your comments more seriously than they should!

I think that what clearly almost certainly happened is that you did not know how SocialGO were getting on, you saw the zocku product and were short of something to wright about…the rest is history…

I’m being serious about that insight by the way, if you know thier costs and can have an informed stab at their income then I will concede that you are able to talk about what has and hasn’t flopped…

Speaking of flops, I read that Ning is now worth $750M…Hang on an minute….

Networks – 1M+ …. Check
Premium subscribers – 12k (down from 15k…hmmm) …. Check
Revenue – circa $1M per month … Check
Costs – circa $3M per month … hmmm, ok, check
Valuation – $750M … wtf, are you tacking the p..s?! lol

By: Sean Brogna

Sean Brogna — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:29:57 +0000

I don’t really think network creators are happy to pay a premium for a platform with constant problems.

With or without the problems, network creators now have a choice between Socialgo.com and Socialparody.com, a free dedicated adult platform without all the problems and expenses.

By: O.J.

O.J. — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:08:45 +0000

I’D RATHER GIVE MY MONEY TO PORN THAN MADOFF.

By: S

Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:41:40 +0000

You are doing adult social networking? Can I ask you a few questions about it?

By: Angel

Angel — Mon, 25 May 2009 16:32:19 +0000

“Steve Hardman
Co-founder SocialGO/Zocku Zocku was created because the adult networks have distinct needs that can be better catered for on a dedicated platform. Also, non-adult networks prefer not to be amongst adult networks for obvious reasons. By having a separate platform it keeps everyone happy. Its really that simple.”

Everyone is happy is a wrong assumption. I wasn’t immediately aware when i created my network on SG that SG was associated with the pornography platform zocku. Some of us don’t want to be confronted with the persistent adult references from zocku’s members on the owners.socialgo and getsatisfaction forums. Why can’t you keep the 2 completely seperate & give zocku owners their own forums & if they don’t have it already, their own support desk? Please can you respond to this Steve Hardman.

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By: kumar

kumar — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:31:16 +0000

is socialgo a porn site? i mean can’t we just create a network with socialgo without the porn? and btw, how does the porn enter the network set up by a socialgo site? does socialgo send the porn ???

By: Ed Johnson

Ed Johnson — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:57:31 +0000

” All I’m saying is that Zocku is evidence that SocialGO failed as a concept ad made *so much* money for Bright Things they simply had to go and create a porn platform because that’s the only way they were going to get any return. That’s a fail in my book.”

Oh come now.. If SocialGO changed their focus to a differnet topic.. say, Video Games, Science/Technology, Home and Gardening, Cooking, etc.. would it still be a fail?

It seems to me that they were trying to be over-arching with their “Sell ANY kind of Social Network!” platform, which wasn’t working (with free social networks coming out of the wazooo) so they responded to the will of the market. Good for them!

By: Chris J

Chris J — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:27:17 +0000

It would be interesting to know whether SocialGo’s owners wanted to be interesting or whether they wanted to make money. Im guessing they would take the lazy and uninteresting tag if it came with a big pay cheque.

Speaking of Google, dont they put apllications live without having a clear defined set of revenue streams? Instead they look at how the application or service is used in order get ideas of how to capitalise.

By: bluesuede

bluesuede — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:55:11 +0000

LOL, don’t wait for TC to put out a critical story of ning. unless it comes straight out of the corporate press release, you wont here it on TC

By: Duh

Duh — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:35:21 +0000

What are you on about?

Porn is a highly professional, competitive business. Most porn sites are way more advanced than the average start-up. It’s a valid, multi-million dollar/euro/pound business, with a very wide audience. How the f*** is this a climbdown?

I’ve seen this kind of moralistic crap before from Techcrunch “omg, hookers!” US. Wasn’t expecting it from you, but apparently Techcrunch systematically selects it’s bloggers on puritanical prejudices.

By: Sam

Sam — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:31:26 +0000

I think constantly laying into people and companies is lazy – a problem that makes TC less and less interesting. Can’t you even try to be a bit more objective? You sorta have a point, but as per usual make it so subjectively you lose the audience – the comments seem to back this up.

PS people post anonomously cos they don’t want to get a load of abuse from you appearing in Google next to their name.

By: Dominic Wheatley

Dominic Wheatley — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:15:59 +0000

Errrmmm……why not try SocialGO (I do have a vested interest of course

By: purple

purple — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:55:03 +0000

if you more proof about what’s happening at NING.. check this link , a signature campaign by NC against the recent developments….

http://networkcreators.ning.com/forum/topics/signature-campaign?groupUrl=networkcreatorsgeneraldiscusssion&id=492224:Topic:436261&groupId=492224:Group:372111&page=1#comments

By: purple

purple — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:44:21 +0000

i am at my wit’s end to understand why TC won’t do a story on NING’s recent troublesome decision There has bee a hell of hue and cry among network creators….

#1. NING thinks privacy isn’t a serious issue at all, so all the profiles are public by default.

#2. Members of different social networks can contact with one another with no one having a clue who viewed his profile or why did he/she received a friend request from other network members or why some one else can view their friendlist …

#3. All the companies have the right to change their TOS as ad when required, but the least they do, the more trusted they become. NING has changed it’s TOS more than thrice in last one year, all to the dismay of it’s members

#4. the current one is the last straw. network creators are feeling they have been used. they want run away from NING and migrate to other network, but Ning wont release their content.

#5. NING said create your own network, now it’s create a network for NING. Spread the word, get the numbers bring traffic thinking that you are working on your own network, however the truth is you are making a network fro them, and if tomorrow you create noise about getting used, they wont mind banning your account or throwing you out….

#6. NING is a scam. TC do an open poll asking NC of (500 members + networks ) given a chance to move out of ning with migration of all of their content, what would they do? they would immediately jump off the NING…

we are helplessly stuck at ning, with no idea what to do next?