Comments on: WAYN’s next strategy? Copy Dopplr http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/ Tracking European web and mobile start-ups Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:35:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Danzel http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-565161 Danzel Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:15:00 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-565161 The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for circumstances they want, and if they cannot find them, make them. The people who get on in this world are the people who
get up and look for circumstances they want, and if they cannot find them, make
them.

]]> By: WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Ebay shopping tips http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545199 WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Ebay shopping tips Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:02:18 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545199 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: WAYN bulunuyor Pivot Trafik Triples olarak Kapalı Pays http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545188 WAYN bulunuyor Pivot Trafik Triples olarak Kapalı Pays Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:20:20 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545188 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans – [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans – [...]

]]> By: WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Bitmag http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545184 WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Bitmag Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:07:27 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545184 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Maplewood Local News http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545176 WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | Maplewood Local News Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:46:57 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545176 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | MakeNoise : MakeNoise http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545173 WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | MakeNoise : MakeNoise Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:37:22 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545173 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | User Manual Guide http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545171 WAYN’s Pivot Pays Off As Traffic Triples – Can Euro Networks Thrive Against Facebook? | User Manual Guide Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:36:15 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545171 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: WAYN’s pivot pays off as traffic triples – can European networks thrive against Facebook? http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-545164 WAYN’s pivot pays off as traffic triples – can European networks thrive against Facebook? Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:23:41 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-545164 [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...] [...] in 2009 they hit 15 million members and introduced a new feature allowing member sot share their future plans [...]

]]> By: The New WAYN is coming… | WAYN Founders Blog http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-262002 The New WAYN is coming… | WAYN Founders Blog Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:35:38 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-262002 [...] As you can see – it is pretty big! Let’s hope that the new release proves to be as big We are also featured on the front page of Travolution, which is one of the leading online media sources in Europe for the travel industry, with a full blog article written by Kevin May, which you can read here. Both articles have created a stir, but perhaps the most recent one added by Mike Butcher from TechCrunch UK, is getting most people talking, and that, is in part, we feel, because it does, in our mind, innaccurately compare us to trying to copy Dopplr with our new focus. Thankfully, some respectable bloggers made a point of countering the view made, and whether it was a kick in the nuts from Mike for not buying him a beer at the last entrepreneurial shindig, or because he didnt get his teeth into the story early enough (try catching him when he is on a week long bender in San Fran with the webmission crew!) is left for you to determine. In all fairness, we didnt have a proper chance to talk with Mike about it and he made is own conclusions based on the screenshots, which we provided to him before anyone else. We like Mike, so dont get us wrong, so I am sure we will kiss and make up over a pint of beer soon, but hopefully in future, he will check the facts before going pressing the “publish” button To read the article in full, click here. [...] [...] As you can see – it is pretty big! Let’s hope that the new release proves to be as big We are also featured on the front page of Travolution, which is one of the leading online media sources in Europe for the travel industry, with a full blog article written by Kevin May, which you can read here. Both articles have created a stir, but perhaps the most recent one added by Mike Butcher from TechCrunch UK, is getting most people talking, and that, is in part, we feel, because it does, in our mind, innaccurately compare us to trying to copy Dopplr with our new focus. Thankfully, some respectable bloggers made a point of countering the view made, and whether it was a kick in the nuts from Mike for not buying him a beer at the last entrepreneurial shindig, or because he didnt get his teeth into the story early enough (try catching him when he is on a week long bender in San Fran with the webmission crew!) is left for you to determine. In all fairness, we didnt have a proper chance to talk with Mike about it and he made is own conclusions based on the screenshots, which we provided to him before anyone else. We like Mike, so dont get us wrong, so I am sure we will kiss and make up over a pint of beer soon, but hopefully in future, he will check the facts before going pressing the “publish” button To read the article in full, click here. [...]

]]> By: Turismo 2.O: Redes Sociales http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-219665 Turismo 2.O: Redes Sociales Wed, 06 May 2009 20:12:37 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-219665 [...] en esta red, el concepto se parece mucho al que ofrece el conocido Dopplr, como bien indican algunos a modo de crítica. La ventaja de WAYN es el volumen de usuarios, que puede hacerle ganar adeptos [...] [...] en esta red, el concepto se parece mucho al que ofrece el conocido Dopplr, como bien indican algunos a modo de crítica. La ventaja de WAYN es el volumen de usuarios, que puede hacerle ganar adeptos [...]

]]> By: ¿Dónde estás? o ¿dónde estarás? « Clan-destinos http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-217389 ¿Dónde estás? o ¿dónde estarás? « Clan-destinos Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:52:44 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-217389 [...] en esta red, el concepto se parece mucho al que ofrece el conocido Dopplr, como bien indican algunos a modo de crítica. La ventaja de WAYN es el volumen de usuarios, que puede hacerle ganar adeptos [...] [...] en esta red, el concepto se parece mucho al que ofrece el conocido Dopplr, como bien indican algunos a modo de crítica. La ventaja de WAYN es el volumen de usuarios, que puede hacerle ganar adeptos [...]

]]> By: Glenn Hall http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214602 Glenn Hall Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:54:55 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214602 Seems surprising no mention of Tripit, http://www.tripit.com/ and it's embodiment 'inside' LinkedIn. Not to mention the iPhone app. Maybe Business users are a different kind of [social] community. Seems surprising no mention of Tripit, http://www.tripit.com/ and it’s embodiment ‘inside’ LinkedIn. Not to mention the iPhone app.
Maybe Business users are a different kind of [social] community.

]]> By: Jared Salter http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214334 Jared Salter Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:44:22 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214334 All this talk of who is copying whom makes me laugh. We're all building (and borrowing) on each others ideas. Zipipop: you man have coined the term "intention broadcasting" but back in 2006 I worked with a startup in LA called circleup.com that preceded many of your intention-based "innovations". We all have our unique angles, but I believe there is not such thing as a 100% original idea. Claiming that WAYN is "copying" Dopplr is over-simplifying things in my opinion. All this talk of who is copying whom makes me laugh. We’re all building (and borrowing) on each others ideas. Zipipop: you man have coined the term “intention broadcasting” but back in 2006 I worked with a startup in LA called circleup.com that preceded many of your intention-based “innovations”. We all have our unique angles, but I believe there is not such thing as a 100% original idea. Claiming that WAYN is “copying” Dopplr is over-simplifying things in my opinion.

]]> By: Kristoffer Lawson http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214302 Kristoffer Lawson Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:12:54 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214302 You're right that the comparison is valid in the context of "intention broadcasting", although I don't think the services themselves compete. However, as you mention, intention broadcasting is an interesting twist on the twitter's more "current" statuses. The point about it actually being more valuable in a business sense to use that information is particularly strong. I just felt that there might be the assumption that Zipiko and WAYN would be competing, which I don't think is true (not to say which model is better). You’re right that the comparison is valid in the context of “intention broadcasting”, although I don’t think the services themselves compete. However, as you mention, intention broadcasting is an interesting twist on the twitter’s more “current” statuses. The point about it actually being more valuable in a business sense to use that information is particularly strong.

I just felt that there might be the assumption that Zipiko and WAYN would be competing, which I don’t think is true (not to say which model is better).

]]> By: Richard von Kaufmann http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214289 Richard von Kaufmann Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:15:52 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214289 I'm not so bothered about who is doing what. Near future social intention broadcasting is a tricky nut to crack and I wish all involved the best of luck. So to help out I have just added my Model for Computer-mediated Intention Sharing and Coordinating" to our Zipi Theory blog: http://zipitheory.blogspot.com/2008/06/intention-broadcasting.html Intention broadcasting was coined at Zipipop and I recently created the model for my MA thesis at Media Lab Helsinki. I have submitted a paper about it to the iSemantic Web conference, so can't publish it yet, but for those interested I could send you a copy. But in the mean time, I have also added a video introduction on the subject. It is currently 12 mins, so I might have to cut it down, but would love your feedback. I’m not so bothered about who is doing what. Near future social intention broadcasting is a tricky nut to crack and I wish all involved the best of luck. So to help out I have just added my Model for Computer-mediated Intention Sharing and Coordinating” to our Zipi Theory blog:

http://zipitheory.blogspot.com/2008/06/intention-broadcasting.html

Intention broadcasting was coined at Zipipop and I recently created the model for my MA thesis at Media Lab Helsinki. I have submitted a paper about it to the iSemantic Web conference, so can’t publish it yet, but for those interested I could send you a copy. But in the mean time, I have also added a video introduction on the subject. It is currently 12 mins, so I might have to cut it down, but would love your feedback.

]]> By: El turista informa « hotelenred http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214191 El turista informa « hotelenred Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:32:50 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214191 [...] final  también publica e informa  en la red el lugar o destino al cual va a viajar, ¿como? (lo anuncia wayn y ya lo hace Dopplr ) , tambien en twitter o facebook entre otros sitios, esto puede ser una [...] [...] final  también publica e informa  en la red el lugar o destino al cual va a viajar, ¿como? (lo anuncia wayn y ya lo hace Dopplr ) , tambien en twitter o facebook entre otros sitios, esto puede ser una [...]

]]> By: Sarah Burton http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214182 Sarah Burton Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:42 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214182 Having the Telegraph article, WAYN is launching events on micro format it would seem so based on user intent - nothing to do with what Dopplr does? As for the trips side, WAYN being doing the where next part for a long time i think, way before any other travel communities in fact so i would agree with comments on here that if anything, others followed what WAYN introduced - my 2 pence worth - looking fwd to seeing the new WAYN though - does someone know when its due? Having the Telegraph article, WAYN is launching events on micro format it would seem so based on user intent – nothing to do with what Dopplr does? As for the trips side, WAYN being doing the where next part for a long time i think, way before any other travel communities in fact so i would agree with comments on here that if anything, others followed what WAYN introduced – my 2 pence worth – looking fwd to seeing the new WAYN though – does someone know when its due?

]]> By: Jerome Touze http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214172 Jerome Touze Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:34:24 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214172 Hi Mike, I thought I would add a quick comment - I have also sent you an email to provide you with more factual points as the points you have included in your post are unfortunately not accurate. I have, for your benefit, also included more stats in that email to back my arguments. I hope these were of help and we would appreciate it if you would at the very least acknowledge these points in reference to your article. Kind Regards Jerome Co Founder of WAYN.com Hi Mike, I thought I would add a quick comment – I have also sent you an email to provide you with more factual points as the points you have included in your post are unfortunately not accurate. I have, for your benefit, also included more stats in that email to back my arguments. I hope these were of help and we would appreciate it if you would at the very least acknowledge these points in reference to your article.

Kind Regards

Jerome
Co Founder of WAYN.com

]]> By: Laurent Etienne D http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214158 Laurent Etienne D Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:27:24 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214158 They are all working on the same basis but to be fair - I haven't received emails from them for a long time and read that they in fact reviewed their email policy drastically and I can notice the improvements personally. As for the new interface, it looks much cleaner - lets give it a chance - would be curious to see when its live. They are all working on the same basis but to be fair – I haven’t received emails from them for a long time and read that they in fact reviewed their email policy drastically and I can notice the improvements personally. As for the new interface, it looks much cleaner – lets give it a chance – would be curious to see when its live.

]]> By: Paul http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214154 Paul Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:12:53 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214154 @Jonathan Facebook is doing that now too: http://www.bitterwallet.com/is-facebook-using-invitation-email-addresses-for-sign-up-spam/10047 @Jonathan

Facebook is doing that now too: http://www.bitterwallet.com/is-facebook-using-invitation-email-addresses-for-sign-up-spam/10047

]]> By: Jonathan http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214141 Jonathan Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:37:55 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214141 Whatever new features WAYN implement, it'll take a lot for me to trust them with my personal data. 3-4 years ago, a friend gave them my e-mail address to "invite" me to the service. I have received frequent, annoying, verging on spammy e-mails ever since trying to get me to sign up to them, despite me asking not to receive further messages. This is well documented on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayn#Criticism Whatever new features WAYN implement, it’ll take a lot for me to trust them with my personal data. 3-4 years ago, a friend gave them my e-mail address to “invite” me to the service. I have received frequent, annoying, verging on spammy e-mails ever since trying to get me to sign up to them, despite me asking not to receive further messages.

This is well documented on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayn#Criticism

]]> By: james http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214133 james Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:29 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214133 Im a bit surprised at this move to be honest - surely would have been better to go deeper into the travel vertical (loads of money there?) rather than become AN. Other social network Im a bit surprised at this move to be honest – surely would have been better to go deeper into the travel vertical (loads of money there?) rather than become AN. Other social network

]]> By: Alex Bainbridge http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214114 Alex Bainbridge Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:00:12 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214114 Hi Mike I have no idea which comments you don't particularly like.... but if you are referring to my one.... then this is what Jerome tweeted me after I commented: @alexbainbridge saw that actually - well said Alex http://twitter.com/jerometouze/status/1533778725 Perhaps it was the ad hominem comments you didn't like, which is understandable. Hi Mike

I have no idea which comments you don’t particularly like…. but if you are referring to my one…. then this is what Jerome tweeted me after I commented:

@alexbainbridge saw that actually – well said Alex

http://twitter.com/jerometouze/status/1533778725

Perhaps it was the ad hominem comments you didn’t like, which is understandable.

]]> By: Mike Butcher http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214112 Mike Butcher Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:55:01 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214112 Ok, sorry, I should have said, I disagree with a lot of those comments, without descending into abuse! Apologies. Ok, sorry, I should have said, I disagree with a lot of those comments, without descending into abuse! Apologies.

]]> By: Mike Butcher http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/04/16/wayns-next-strategy-copy-dopplr/comment-page-1/#comment-214109 Mike Butcher Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:45:25 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=4372#comment-214109 What a load of horse shit comments. Dopplr did not copy WAYN for pete's sake. WAYN was never - until now - about intention broadcasting. It was an old fashioned social network for kids on their gap year. Don't get me wrong - I like their new move. And I say it makes sense. And besides, if Dopplr was copying WAYN its numbers would be going down too, but the opposite is the case - their model is and was always different. I think the Zipiko comparison stands, even though it is shorter time periods - in fact that may be their downfall, since WAYN's internion broadcasting is designed to be over a longer stretch into the future - where I am going on holiday next etc. What a load of horse shit comments. Dopplr did not copy WAYN for pete’s sake. WAYN was never – until now – about intention broadcasting. It was an old fashioned social network for kids on their gap year. Don’t get me wrong – I like their new move. And I say it makes sense. And besides, if Dopplr was copying WAYN its numbers would be going down too, but the opposite is the case – their model is and was always different. I think the Zipiko comparison stands, even though it is shorter time periods – in fact that may be their downfall, since WAYN’s internion broadcasting is designed to be over a longer stretch into the future – where I am going on holiday next etc.

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