Comments on: I’m calling a ‘time of death’ for London’s media industry – And Paul Carr is its first victim http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/ Tracking European web and mobile start-ups Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:44:24 +0100 hourly 1 By: Blogging is Dead. Wordpress is Dead. Technology is Dead. « Serious Simplicity http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-260692 Blogging is Dead. Wordpress is Dead. Technology is Dead. « Serious Simplicity Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:03:36 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-260692 [...] thinks that comments are dead. ‘Traditional media’ is also dead (it seems to have died twice in fact) and in case you haven’t heard, Facebook is also [...] [...] thinks that comments are dead. ‘Traditional media’ is also dead (it seems to have died twice in fact) and in case you haven’t heard, Facebook is also [...]

]]> By: Paul Carr brings NSFW column to TechCrunch Europe | Newsjacker http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-243827 Paul Carr brings NSFW column to TechCrunch Europe | Newsjacker Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:27:41 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-243827 [...] the TechCrunch team. Suffice it to say that when I heard Paul’s popular column, NSFW, had been cut by The Guardian newspaper I lobbied to bring him over to TechCrunch and TechCrunch Europe. It [...] [...] the TechCrunch team. Suffice it to say that when I heard Paul’s popular column, NSFW, had been cut by The Guardian newspaper I lobbied to bring him over to TechCrunch and TechCrunch Europe. It [...]

]]> By: Paul Carr brings NSFW column to TechCrunch Europe http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-243790 Paul Carr brings NSFW column to TechCrunch Europe Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:35:10 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-243790 [...] the TechCrunch team. Suffice it to say that when I heard Paul’s popular column, NSFW, had been cut by The Guardian newspaper I lobbied to bring him over to TechCrunch and TechCrunch Europe. It [...] [...] the TechCrunch team. Suffice it to say that when I heard Paul’s popular column, NSFW, had been cut by The Guardian newspaper I lobbied to bring him over to TechCrunch and TechCrunch Europe. It [...]

]]> By: TibTV » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-243351 TibTV » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:35:34 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-243351 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: TheTechnologySources.com » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242948 TheTechnologySources.com » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:04:34 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242948 [...] its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) Indeed “the scene” may be dead, but there’s an upside here. The companies that are still [...] [...] its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) Indeed “the scene” may be dead, but there’s an upside here. The companies that are still [...]

]]> By: The Far Edge » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242891 The Far Edge » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:38:22 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242891 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: Get your News » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242808 Get your News » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:09:54 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242808 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s techCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s techCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | GossipTrendz.com http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242782 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | GossipTrendz.com Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:22:05 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242782 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: Kanha.info » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242773 Kanha.info » Blog Archive » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:43:11 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242773 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: Styker.Net » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242751 Styker.Net » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:49:41 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242751 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | The IT Chronicle http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242728 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | The IT Chronicle Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:47:35 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242728 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | TopBlogs http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242717 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | TopBlogs Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:10:24 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242717 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | The Scripts Zone http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242714 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | The Scripts Zone Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:02:44 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242714 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can - Programming Blog http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242641 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can - Programming Blog Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:48:32 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242641 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | Cellphone Ultra http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242628 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | Cellphone Ultra Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:47:09 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242628 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Net scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Net scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | Viningmedia Nieuws http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242624 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | Viningmedia Nieuws Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:43:04 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242624 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | ScooperNews.com http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242623 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can | ScooperNews.com Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:42:05 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242623 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: The Tech Town » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242622 The Tech Town » UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:39:52 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242622 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242613 UK Entrepreneurs: Get Your Funding While You Still Can Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:12:12 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242613 [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...] [...] It’s that kind of bleak desperation that lead the infamous Paul Carr to pronounce the UK Internet scene dead….just before his own column in the Guardian became its own victim of the economy a few days later. (See Mr. Butcher’s TechCrunchEurope rebuttal here.) [...]

]]> By: Jules http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242148 Jules Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:45:38 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242148 A wonderful list of innovative start-ups that are doing very well. I am especially fascinated by Moshi Monsters. I will definitely be reading more about it. A wonderful list of innovative start-ups that are doing very well. I am especially fascinated by Moshi Monsters. I will definitely be reading more about it.

]]> By: I’m calling a ‘time of opportunity’ for London/UK internet startup industry « Nickpoint http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-242022 I’m calling a ‘time of opportunity’ for London/UK internet startup industry « Nickpoint Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:14:43 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-242022 [...] The investment funds sloshing around The Valley are huge compared to UK/European funds. The VC’s and Angel’s in the UK/Europe also tend to be much more risk adverse. Although these factors are changing  in the US with the credit bubble bursting. The UK’s limitations doesn’t mean we can’t produce a wonderful Olympics or make world class profitable web apps, we can. Huddle is a great example. Their ranked as one of the globe’s top 50 startups. Bebo is an excellent example of a very healthy trade sale. Sage a global leader was once a UK startup. The list of great UK startup goes on. Mike Butcher of Techcrunch Europe did a splendid job of correcting Paul on London’s startup profitability. [...] [...] The investment funds sloshing around The Valley are huge compared to UK/European funds. The VC’s and Angel’s in the UK/Europe also tend to be much more risk adverse. Although these factors are changing  in the US with the credit bubble bursting. The UK’s limitations doesn’t mean we can’t produce a wonderful Olympics or make world class profitable web apps, we can. Huddle is a great example. Their ranked as one of the globe’s top 50 startups. Bebo is an excellent example of a very healthy trade sale. Sage a global leader was once a UK startup. The list of great UK startup goes on. Mike Butcher of Techcrunch Europe did a splendid job of correcting Paul on London’s startup profitability. [...]

]]> By: helen bryant http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-241860 helen bryant Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:58:46 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-241860 Skimlinks demo http://www.kyte.tv/ch/6118/499819 What isn't addressed by Mike or Scoble's demo above is whether content monetised with disguised affiliate links is editorial. If editors are adding links to 'editorial' that the publisher derives a financial gain from then does that content become an advert that entices the reader to buy? The legal defintion of advertising is an enticement, nothing to do wth advertisers buying space, controlling what appears etc. The distinction is important since it's a legal one between marketing communication and editorial which informs with no commercial influence. If editorial has to include some commercial links to make any money how is it impartial? Stepping over the line is a criminal offence, the penalty is up to two years in prison. If Cosmo editors add links to what readers think is editorial as is claimed by Navarro I don't see that there is any editorial on this demo page, all the content is monetised. http://www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/fashion-&-style/fashion-shopping-holiday-wardrobe-straw-hat/gallery I think Scoble is right to call it content once you monetise it with commercial links, not editorial. Skimlinks demo
http://www.kyte.tv/ch/6118/499819

What isn’t addressed by Mike or Scoble’s demo above is whether content monetised with disguised affiliate links is editorial. If editors are adding links to ‘editorial’ that the publisher derives a financial gain from then does that content become an advert that entices the reader to buy? The legal defintion of advertising is an enticement, nothing to do wth advertisers buying space, controlling what appears etc. The distinction is important since it’s a legal one between marketing communication and editorial which informs with no commercial influence. If editorial has to include some commercial links to make any money how is it impartial? Stepping over the line is a criminal offence, the penalty is up to two years in prison.

If Cosmo editors add links to what readers think is editorial as is claimed by Navarro I don’t see that there is any editorial on this demo page, all the content is monetised.

http://www.cosmopolitan.co.uk/fashion-&-style/fashion-shopping-holiday-wardrobe-straw-hat/gallery

I think Scoble is right to call it content once you monetise it with commercial links, not editorial.

]]> By: I’m calling a ‘time of death’ for London’s media industry | press http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-241859 I’m calling a ‘time of death’ for London’s media industry | press Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:56:54 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-241859 [...] Mike Butcher   |   July 13th, 2009   |   view article [...] [...] Mike Butcher   |   July 13th, 2009   |   view article [...]

]]> By: Ian Delaney http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-241852 Ian Delaney Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:04:08 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-241852 Of Travelling Patronisers - referring back to post-digital and Paul's column. Sorry, Scoble &co - we get it. Bye bye. Of Travelling Patronisers – referring back to post-digital and Paul’s column. Sorry, Scoble &co – we get it. Bye bye.

]]> By: links for 2009-07-14 « Becky McMichael’s PR Balancing Act http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/07/13/im-calling-a-time-of-death-for-londons-media-industry-episode-36/comment-page-1/#comment-241851 links for 2009-07-14 « Becky McMichael’s PR Balancing Act Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:02:43 +0000 http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=6615#comment-241851 [...] I’m calling a ‘time of death’ for London’s media industry. Episode 36. (tags: media new old paulcarr economy) Filed under: links   |  Leave a Comment [...] [...] I’m calling a ‘time of death’ for London’s media industry. Episode 36. (tags: media new old paulcarr economy) Filed under: links   |  Leave a Comment [...]

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