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		<title>By: johaness</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-516532</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie Meyer is a walking scam.

Domceq even more so.

SpinVox is a total house of cards, all investors should be totally embarrassed.

SpinVox makes all of UK VC look like idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie Meyer is a walking scam.</p>
<p>Domceq even more so.</p>
<p>SpinVox is a total house of cards, all investors should be totally embarrassed.</p>
<p>SpinVox makes all of UK VC look like idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Team Roster</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-458242</link>
		<dc:creator>Team Roster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spinvox close to $150 million exit to Nuance? Not so fast</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-295768</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinvox close to $150 million exit to Nuance? Not so fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] alas, Dragon&#8217;s Den celeb, Ariadne Capital chief and Spinvox advisor Julie Meyer, who defended Spinvox and Domecq to the hilt, even saying Spinvox was &#8220;already profitable” and “conversion revenue is going through [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] alas, Dragon&#8217;s Den celeb, Ariadne Capital chief and Spinvox advisor Julie Meyer, who defended Spinvox and Domecq to the hilt, even saying Spinvox was &#8220;already profitable” and “conversion revenue is going through [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thepointis</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-269511</link>
		<dc:creator>thepointis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, the point everyone is missing here is that Julie Meyer is hot.  Nothing else is relevant and all can be forgiven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, the point everyone is missing here is that Julie Meyer is hot.  Nothing else is relevant and all can be forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: BusyBB.us &#187; Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260935</link>
		<dc:creator>BusyBB.us &#187; Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ariadne Capital finally puts skin in the game with a £20m fund&#160;</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260917</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadne Capital finally puts skin in the game with a £20m fund&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne Capital. The latter has just announced a brand-new £20m fund, the Ariadne Capital [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mash123 &#187; Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260845</link>
		<dc:creator>Mash123 &#187; Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has a new and unexpected bit of&amp;#32&amp;#99&amp;#111mpetition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m &#124; Anthonyrobinson.info</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260839</link>
		<dc:creator>Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m &#124; Anthonyrobinson.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260831</link>
		<dc:creator>Europe Gets Another Fund As Ariadne Slaps Down $32m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ariadne Capital finally puts skin in the game with a £20m fund</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-260772</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariadne Capital finally puts skin in the game with a £20m fund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capital has a new and unexpected bit of competition in the shape of &#8220;online Dragon&#8221; Julie Meyer from Ariadne Capital. The latter has just announced a brand-new £20m fund, the Ariadne Capital [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-254492</link>
		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share the concern that the reluctance of people to discredit (or at least know and share the truth about) Julie Meyer may enable her to become a &quot;respectable part of the ecosystem&quot; .....

Bueller?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share the concern that the reluctance of people to discredit (or at least know and share the truth about) Julie Meyer may enable her to become a &#8220;respectable part of the ecosystem&#8221; &#8230;..</p>
<p>Bueller?</p>
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		<title>By: SpinVox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter &#124; My Blog</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-253885</link>
		<dc:creator>SpinVox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter &#124; My Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=8924#comment-253885</guid>
		<description>[...] time I&#8217;ve asked them about SpinVox. I was interested in their answers, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time I&#8217;ve asked them about SpinVox. I was interested in their answers, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SpinVox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter&#160;</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-253376</link>
		<dc:creator>SpinVox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://uk.techcrunch.com/?p=8924#comment-253376</guid>
		<description>[...] time I&#8217;ve asked them about SpinVox. I was interested in their answers, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time I&#8217;ve asked them about SpinVox. I was interested in their answers, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spinvox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter&#160;</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-253186</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinvox: Why its extinction wouldn’t matter&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] each time I&#8217;ve asked them about Spinvox. I was interested in their answer, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spinvox: Why its extinction wouldn&#8217;t matter</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-253181</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinvox: Why its extinction wouldn&#8217;t matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] each time I&#8217;ve asked them about Spinvox. I was interested in their answer, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] each time I&#8217;ve asked them about Spinvox. I was interested in their answer, because the recent controversy surrounding the company appears to be gradually affecting the way the mainstream media views, as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AmITheOnlyOne?</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmITheOnlyOne?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as much as I agree with Mike&#039;s points - free press, say it like it is, push the envelope etc., I COMPLETELY disagree with the tone of this post.

Techcrunch&#039;s &quot;holier-than-thou&quot; attitude is getting worse as time goes by, and makes it harder to find the actual facts - what good journalists are supposed to present to their readers - in the conceited, self serving attitude that covers the stories like a thick sickeningly-sweet syrup. 

Arrington WAS the best product journalist, until he fell in love with himself and forgot that that&#039;s what he is - A JOURNALIST.

Apprently, his colleagues also forgot that that&#039;s what he is - &quot;Arrington is best Product Journalist in the business, and a startup that doesn’t take his advice does so at their peril.&quot; - WTF???
If Arrington reads this post and is cool with this comment, well, I guess that just proves me right..

Don&#039;t get me wrong - I think the techcrunch guys are doing us all a great service, but I think we will all be better off if everyone (Butcher, Meyer, Domecq et al.) get off their high horse and start focusing about what we are all REALLY interested in - building  exciting new companies that will grow and prosper and make a real difference in people&#039;s lives.

I hope I&#039;m not the only one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as much as I agree with Mike&#8217;s points &#8211; free press, say it like it is, push the envelope etc., I COMPLETELY disagree with the tone of this post.</p>
<p>Techcrunch&#8217;s &#8220;holier-than-thou&#8221; attitude is getting worse as time goes by, and makes it harder to find the actual facts &#8211; what good journalists are supposed to present to their readers &#8211; in the conceited, self serving attitude that covers the stories like a thick sickeningly-sweet syrup. </p>
<p>Arrington WAS the best product journalist, until he fell in love with himself and forgot that that&#8217;s what he is &#8211; A JOURNALIST.</p>
<p>Apprently, his colleagues also forgot that that&#8217;s what he is &#8211; &#8220;Arrington is best Product Journalist in the business, and a startup that doesn’t take his advice does so at their peril.&#8221; &#8211; WTF???<br />
If Arrington reads this post and is cool with this comment, well, I guess that just proves me right..</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I think the techcrunch guys are doing us all a great service, but I think we will all be better off if everyone (Butcher, Meyer, Domecq et al.) get off their high horse and start focusing about what we are all REALLY interested in &#8211; building  exciting new companies that will grow and prosper and make a real difference in people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m not the only one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reply if you rate Ariadne</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-252287</link>
		<dc:creator>Reply if you rate Ariadne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Julie Meyer — lots of talk, but what has she actually ever done? “

What is ironic about this episode is that Julie herself has continually failed in life; failed to make First Tuesday anything, failed to raise a fund for Ariadne, failed to make any friends in the industry, and failed to make any money from investing in start ups.

She still gets incredible media coverage: clearly she has not failed at PR.  

AND YET, the ecosystem in which she survives somehow manages to keep her afloat.  So Europe can&#039;t be that bad at giving failed entrepreneurs chance after chance after chance...

First Tuesday.  She sat on a few panels.  Intro&#039;d a few VCs to entrepreneurs.  Riased money in 1999 (my 12 year old daughter could have raised money in 1999, even when she was two.com). Fell out with all her co-founders. None of which give good references (try speaking to Nick Denton or John Browning).  She started Ariadne.  Consistently fell out with everyone there (if you have a spare 20 mins do read the fucked company cache http://bit.ly/NSs7S ...),  Employed people like this (really, read it, it&#039;s hilarious http://bit.ly/1QFrY4 ).  Claimed that Skype was a portfolio company but all she did was headhunt a junior wonk (try asking the Skype guys about her).

Consistently failed to raise money from institutions for Ariadne, only from angels who swallowed her lines. Today she intros deals to VCs who all have her on auto-delete and seems to earn her salary makes money from constantly appearing in PR
http://www.ariadnecapital.com/documents/Julie_Meyer_Speaker_Biography_00
1.pdf )

What is terrific of course about Julie is that she keeps on bouncing back.  It is probably posts like this that strengthen her resolve, keep her fighting for another slot on radio 4 and sharpen her persuasion skills to convince another innocent entrepreneur to give up equity to become part of her &quot;portfoio&quot; and get access to her &quot;network&quot;.

And that is the rub.  I’ve got nothing against PR trolls who want to get coverage to increase their speaker fee and somehow fulfil their insecurity, but it fills me with fear that she might become a respectable part of the “ecosystem”.

It’s easy to post anonymously on a blog, so I want to hear from all those successful entrepreneurs and management teams who have got value from Ariadne.  Please; speak up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Julie Meyer — lots of talk, but what has she actually ever done? “</p>
<p>What is ironic about this episode is that Julie herself has continually failed in life; failed to make First Tuesday anything, failed to raise a fund for Ariadne, failed to make any friends in the industry, and failed to make any money from investing in start ups.</p>
<p>She still gets incredible media coverage: clearly she has not failed at PR.  </p>
<p>AND YET, the ecosystem in which she survives somehow manages to keep her afloat.  So Europe can&#8217;t be that bad at giving failed entrepreneurs chance after chance after chance&#8230;</p>
<p>First Tuesday.  She sat on a few panels.  Intro&#8217;d a few VCs to entrepreneurs.  Riased money in 1999 (my 12 year old daughter could have raised money in 1999, even when she was two.com). Fell out with all her co-founders. None of which give good references (try speaking to Nick Denton or John Browning).  She started Ariadne.  Consistently fell out with everyone there (if you have a spare 20 mins do read the fucked company cache <a href="http://bit.ly/NSs7S" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/NSs7S</a> &#8230;),  Employed people like this (really, read it, it&#8217;s hilarious <a href="http://bit.ly/1QFrY4" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1QFrY4</a> ).  Claimed that Skype was a portfolio company but all she did was headhunt a junior wonk (try asking the Skype guys about her).</p>
<p>Consistently failed to raise money from institutions for Ariadne, only from angels who swallowed her lines. Today she intros deals to VCs who all have her on auto-delete and seems to earn her salary makes money from constantly appearing in PR<br />
<a href="http://www.ariadnecapital.com/documents/Julie_Meyer_Speaker_Biography_00" rel="nofollow">http://www.ariadnecapital.com/documents/Julie_Meyer_Speaker_Biography_00</a><br />
1.pdf )</p>
<p>What is terrific of course about Julie is that she keeps on bouncing back.  It is probably posts like this that strengthen her resolve, keep her fighting for another slot on radio 4 and sharpen her persuasion skills to convince another innocent entrepreneur to give up equity to become part of her &#8220;portfoio&#8221; and get access to her &#8220;network&#8221;.</p>
<p>And that is the rub.  I’ve got nothing against PR trolls who want to get coverage to increase their speaker fee and somehow fulfil their insecurity, but it fills me with fear that she might become a respectable part of the “ecosystem”.</p>
<p>It’s easy to post anonymously on a blog, so I want to hear from all those successful entrepreneurs and management teams who have got value from Ariadne.  Please; speak up!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bellinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Bellinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely one of the best posts on TechCrunch UK.  Mike is to be congratulated.

One of the strangest things about this whole sorry saga, is that it&#039;s been common knowledge for at least a couple of years that SpinVox used call centres abroad to transcribe messages and seemed to have a very manual &#039;technology&#039;.

I&#039;m amazed that nobody did some digging before now.  I&#039;m equally amazed that SpinVox weren&#039;t prepared to be more straight-forward from the outset.

The financials are something else though ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely one of the best posts on TechCrunch UK.  Mike is to be congratulated.</p>
<p>One of the strangest things about this whole sorry saga, is that it&#8217;s been common knowledge for at least a couple of years that SpinVox used call centres abroad to transcribe messages and seemed to have a very manual &#8216;technology&#8217;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed that nobody did some digging before now.  I&#8217;m equally amazed that SpinVox weren&#8217;t prepared to be more straight-forward from the outset.</p>
<p>The financials are something else though &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

You&#039;ve got three great stories here:

1) SpinVox -- the emperor has no clothes
2) Christina Domecq -- £500k salary? car and chauffeur? what planet is she on?
3) Julie Meyer -- lots of talk, but what has she actually ever done? How much CASH has Ariadne (not the suckers who were sweet talked into investing in Ariadne) ever invested?

Please keep digging......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got three great stories here:</p>
<p>1) SpinVox &#8212; the emperor has no clothes<br />
2) Christina Domecq &#8212; £500k salary? car and chauffeur? what planet is she on?<br />
3) Julie Meyer &#8212; lots of talk, but what has she actually ever done? How much CASH has Ariadne (not the suckers who were sweet talked into investing in Ariadne) ever invested?</p>
<p>Please keep digging&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JasonO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>500k salary for a startup CEO. Alongside all the hype and company &#039;perks&#039; Smells like a pump and dump job to me. 

After so many years the service is still not available in the UK.

Whats the saying? Go hard or go home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>500k salary for a startup CEO. Alongside all the hype and company &#8216;perks&#8217; Smells like a pump and dump job to me. </p>
<p>After so many years the service is still not available in the UK.</p>
<p>Whats the saying? Go hard or go home.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodolfo</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/17/hey-julie-we-wont-get-great-startups-by-always-being-nice/comment-page-1/#comment-251758</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodolfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archive.org is your friend.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070210150625rn_1/comments.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/index.php?newsid=97505&amp;page=1&amp;parentid=0&amp;crapfilter=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archive.org is your friend.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070210150625rn_1/comments.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/index.php?newsid=97505&amp;page=1&amp;parentid=0&amp;crapfilter=1" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20070210150625rn_1/comments.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/index.php?newsid=97505&amp;page=1&amp;parentid=0&amp;crapfilter=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly it&#039;s wrong to flatter Mike too much here ;-), but I think this is very much a story worth pursuing - keep digging...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly it&#8217;s wrong to flatter Mike too much here <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but I think this is very much a story worth pursuing &#8211; keep digging&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more info on Christina&#039;s prior &quot;success&quot;, see:

http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-law-courts-tribunals/10602370-1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more info on Christina&#8217;s prior &#8220;success&#8221;, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-law-courts-tribunals/10602370-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-law-courts-tribunals/10602370-1.html</a></p>
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