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	<title>Comments on: Teenagers show UK Govt how web/mobile services should be done</title>
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		<title>By: caps</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-535120</link>
		<dc:creator>caps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan is a basketball god, is he is a basketball become god-like, so everyone has been like in different production by wearing this style hat 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edhatstore.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;top quality MLB caps&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan is a basketball god, is he is a basketball become god-like, so everyone has been like in different production by wearing this style hat<br />
<a href="http://www.edhatstore.com" rel="nofollow">top quality MLB caps</a></p>
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		<title>By: Set our Data Free and Create a (Digital) Economy &#124; redcatco blog</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-268594</link>
		<dc:creator>Set our Data Free and Create a (Digital) Economy &#124; redcatco blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] @BenHammersley @helenmilner @marxculture and @danielheaf) judged the apps, and there are some good blog posts on what went off, as well as my usual collection of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] @BenHammersley @helenmilner @marxculture and @danielheaf) judged the apps, and there are some good blog posts on what went off, as well as my usual collection of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-259807</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at Guvna Bs page. Hes an upcoming gospel/christian rapper!

lets promote the positive young people instead of the negative.

http://www.myspace.com/guvnab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Guvna Bs page. Hes an upcoming gospel/christian rapper!</p>
<p>lets promote the positive young people instead of the negative.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/guvnab" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/guvnab</a></p>
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		<title>By: ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don’t tell Royal Mail) &#171; techkrunch</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-256908</link>
		<dc:creator>ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don’t tell Royal Mail) &#171; techkrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com’s). “We’ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,” he said. “But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com’s). “We’ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,” he said. “But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don’t tell Royal Mail)&#160;</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-256568</link>
		<dc:creator>ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don’t tell Royal Mail)&#160;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com&#8217;s). &#8220;We&#8217;ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,&#8221; he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com&#8217;s). &#8220;We&#8217;ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,&#8221; he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don&#8217;t tell Royal Mail)</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-256521</link>
		<dc:creator>ErnestMarples.com serves up free postcode data (just don&#8217;t tell Royal Mail)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com&#8217;s). &#8220;We&#8217;ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,&#8221; he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] met Harry Metcalf, one of the guys behind ErnestMarples, at Young Rewired State (a project whose goals were very similar to ErnestMarples.com&#8217;s). &#8220;We&#8217;ll undoubtedly get shouted at severely by the Royal Mail eventually,&#8221; he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mobile</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-255155</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the bus thing could be pretty useful. I mean you could hang out at your mate&#039;s house/the pub and not bother getting up for the bus if you know already that it&#039;s not coming on time. You could arrive at the stop at nearly the same time as the bus instead of waiting around in the cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bus thing could be pretty useful. I mean you could hang out at your mate&#8217;s house/the pub and not bother getting up for the bus if you know already that it&#8217;s not coming on time. You could arrive at the stop at nearly the same time as the bus instead of waiting around in the cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254518</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are slightly missinterpreting what I said.

Personally, I think it&#039;s great that 15-18 year olds can bash together useful projects in a short space of time - they have an exceptionally bright future.

My comment was more focused on the style of OTT journalism that typically crops up when ever a story involves children and original thought.

I&#039;m just being a miserable old git, please ignore me! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are slightly missinterpreting what I said.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it&#8217;s great that 15-18 year olds can bash together useful projects in a short space of time &#8211; they have an exceptionally bright future.</p>
<p>My comment was more focused on the style of OTT journalism that typically crops up when ever a story involves children and original thought.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just being a miserable old git, please ignore me! <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Denny</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254482</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you read the bus app description?  It&#039;s not a time-table, it&#039;s live service status updates.  I can think of at least three people in my extended online connection group who&#039;ve mentioned wanting such a thing (in blog posts/comments or twitter/facebook statuses) in the last month or two alone.

Perhaps you don&#039;t rely on London buses for your commute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read the bus app description?  It&#8217;s not a time-table, it&#8217;s live service status updates.  I can think of at least three people in my extended online connection group who&#8217;ve mentioned wanting such a thing (in blog posts/comments or twitter/facebook statuses) in the last month or two alone.</p>
<p>Perhaps you don&#8217;t rely on London buses for your commute?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254443</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - forgot to say, you&#039;d be surprised how important children are to parents ;)

It was a great weekend - thanks to everyone who organised it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8211; forgot to say, you&#8217;d be surprised how important children are to parents <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It was a great weekend &#8211; thanks to everyone who organised it!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I&#039;d like to reiterate (Stephen beat me to it) that when these ideas were thought up we were simply attempting to come up with something interesting, vaguely original and data-related, rather than something to make us rich.

In addition, please bear in mind most of the apps on show were hacked together in a great rush in two days, often mostly put together by two or three coders (in our group&#039;s case, &#039;will work for peanuts&#039;, the whole PHP/MySQL backend was &quot;managed&quot; by myself) owing to the large variety of talent, meaning most were mere proof-of-concepts which can be scaled up to cover a broader spectrum of applications. The school route idea may seem ridiculously esoteric / niche to you, but with a sufficient data source it can be scaled up to plan routes around other forms of undesirable events; what I&#039;m essentially saying is I don&#039;t think you appreciate the scalability of some of the hacks created.

Anyways, it would have been nice for me not to have had to defend myself and others for trying to come up with good ideas.

Bryant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to reiterate (Stephen beat me to it) that when these ideas were thought up we were simply attempting to come up with something interesting, vaguely original and data-related, rather than something to make us rich.</p>
<p>In addition, please bear in mind most of the apps on show were hacked together in a great rush in two days, often mostly put together by two or three coders (in our group&#8217;s case, &#8216;will work for peanuts&#8217;, the whole PHP/MySQL backend was &#8220;managed&#8221; by myself) owing to the large variety of talent, meaning most were mere proof-of-concepts which can be scaled up to cover a broader spectrum of applications. The school route idea may seem ridiculously esoteric / niche to you, but with a sufficient data source it can be scaled up to plan routes around other forms of undesirable events; what I&#8217;m essentially saying is I don&#8217;t think you appreciate the scalability of some of the hacks created.</p>
<p>Anyways, it would have been nice for me not to have had to defend myself and others for trying to come up with good ideas.</p>
<p>Bryant</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Mount</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254438</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Mount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I understand where you&#039;re coming from as you&#039;ve picked up as a &quot;start-up&quot; as a commercial entity. None of the hack teams were considering monetising them and/or turning them into a commercial service them because at the end of the day the point in the event is that tried to make government data presentable and to show the government where government data was lacking.

Stephen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I understand where you&#8217;re coming from as you&#8217;ve picked up as a &#8220;start-up&#8221; as a commercial entity. None of the hack teams were considering monetising them and/or turning them into a commercial service them because at the end of the day the point in the event is that tried to make government data presentable and to show the government where government data was lacking.</p>
<p>Stephen.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254421</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you were at school were you ever ridiculed because you didn&#039;t come up with a million-dollar idea?

Cut them some slack, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you were at school were you ever ridiculed because you didn&#8217;t come up with a million-dollar idea?</p>
<p>Cut them some slack, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/24/teenagers-show-uk-govt-how-webmobile-services-should-be-done/comment-page-1/#comment-254417</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Rewired State probably saw the birth of five or more successful startups of the future...&quot;

Start-ups of the future?  Yeah, right... because there is just a HUGE market for searching out the school route that is least likely to result in a stabbing...  And I&#039;m sure Google are just beating down the door to buy a bus time tables app.  

Care to explain how ANY of the above mentioned &#039;hacks&#039; are &quot;...easily monetized ...&quot; ???

*shakes head*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Rewired State probably saw the birth of five or more successful startups of the future&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Start-ups of the future?  Yeah, right&#8230; because there is just a HUGE market for searching out the school route that is least likely to result in a stabbing&#8230;  And I&#8217;m sure Google are just beating down the door to buy a bus time tables app.  </p>
<p>Care to explain how ANY of the above mentioned &#8216;hacks&#8217; are &#8220;&#8230;easily monetized &#8230;&#8221; ???</p>
<p>*shakes head*</p>
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