Hope you can make it to the next event in Rome:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=151959517120

We are actually doing something.
So here it is:
the next event will be in Rome on the 4th of October, a very informal Startup Brunch to get to know each other, and get valuable feedback.

This will be the kick-start to the season, and you’ll see loads of new mini and bigger events in Italy.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=151959517120

This is great news. We are a young start-up in Rome and would love the opportunity to network with others in the area. We have a representative of ours over at techcrunch50 but there is nothing better than for us to meet other start-ups in our area. Who know what benefits we might get from it. I really hope that there will be a techcrunch event on here sooner rather than later.

Alex

Geeks, entrepreneurs and web people from the whole country joined the Startup Night on september 7th @MIKAMAI office in Milan.
You may want to check out some photos or some videos: here and here.
Here’s a review on TECHCRUNCH!
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Giacomo, I’m sorry you didn’t find Minibar useful (I was involved with the startup and the uni that organized it, so twice as disappointed) and unfortunately I didn’t make it to the Startup Night as I no longer live in Italy, but I’m happy the format worked much better.

But I guess what I don’t understand is the need to wipe out all the previous efforts by claiming this was “the first ever… creating a new tech scene from scratch…” rather than acknowledging them and building on in order to get to a bigger result.

I think this is typical not only of the startup scene but of every scene in Italy (the electronic music scene has been very good at this for example), and it’s one of the main reasons why all these scenes never grow enough to make it big. I hope this is the start of something different and I wish you the best of luck.

Anyway, live long and prosper. cheers

Francesco I was at the minibar and it was everything BUT useful to startups and wanna be enterpreneurs.

I did not have the luck to be at the startup night, but all the people I talked to had a widely different opinion on it than they had at the minicamp.

I appreciate this last event has been one of a kind, so kudos to Mikamai who organized it.

Having said this, it just makes sense to be accurate if your job is to inform the people. You wrote “the first ever Startup Night in Milan, practically creating a new tech scene from scratch” and that is simply not true because a tech scene was there already and startup meetups have been held before.

So, it would only seem natural to me to accept a comment that’s building on the information you provided.

Now if you want to carry on, be my guest. I’m calling it a day.

I don’t know if you were an organizer of Minibar and got upset cause you wanted the prize of being the first, but I don’t get your point.

I simply thought it was the first of its kind and I wrote about it. But being the second, or the tenth, doesn’t make it less important.

Oh and by the way, I wasn’t involved in the organization of the event as I met the organizers there for the first time.

(I won’t get started about the suits, cause I could rant for days, let me just paraphrase your sentence “there’s no startup scene without investors” into “there’s no startup scene because there aren’t investors”)

also, minibar was obviously “networking-focused”, what else!? we didn’t bring together startups, media and investors to play cards;

also 2, the people you call “the suits” are quite crucial to the startup ecosystem, there’s no startup scene without investors;

also3, location-wise, minibar london happens every month, since 2005, in a bar.. does it make it less startup-oriented?

anyway, i guess what I’m on about is the typical attitude of calling what you do “the first ever whatever”… there’s no need to do that, it makes sense even if it wasn’t the first one ever in the galaxy