Comments on: Exclusive: Mixcloud launches ‘the YouTube of radio’ on Monday

By: Sesli Sohbet

Sesli Sohbet — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:00:00 +0000

Thanks good comments

By: OliBrolly

OliBrolly — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:46:44 +0000

(online)video killed the radio star…. NOT LIKELY! Mixcloud is not nostalgia, this is the future! love it boys

By: Paramendra Kumar Bhagat

Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:18:55 +0000

I don’t fully get it.

By: Toffer Peak

Toffer Peak — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:26:18 +0000

Hmm. Then I guess my question would be do people really want that? Isn’t what’s great about “internet radio” is that you can listen to what you want, not what the radio station wants to play? Sure that can help you learn new music;/artists but with recommendation algorithms (Pandora) and personal recommendations (last.fm) I don’t really think that the internet lacks significantly superior ways to learn of and listen to new music. At a minimum you should be able to skip songs.

Sorry, i just don’t see this going anywhere.

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By: Bert Hartmann

Bert Hartmann — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:20:25 +0000

This is great idea and I really like the use of the “radio recommendation algorithm to help users find shows they love”. I know that MusicXray http://www.musicxray.com has a similar technology but it is focused on artists posting their music and then allowing it to be critiqued by music industry professionals. Both of these sites are employing great concepts and are providing a step in the right direction for those who want to be able to filter through all of the music available on the web to find what they want to hear while making the artists available to suit their needs of the listener. Good job in teaming up with Queen Mary as well!

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By: Andrew L

Andrew L — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:54:26 +0000

I agree that it looks like it would be a headache to manage – I’m just pointing out that there is a legal framework in place for this kind of thing.

These royalty pricing structures have been a long standing fight – with many web broadcasters feeling they are being unfairly marginalized since traditional radio isn’t subject to the same high per song performance fees. My personal feeling is that the high royalty fees are stifling innovation and hurting the advancement of digital music in general.

What you’re describing with the music database sounds good on paper but you would then be faced with the challenge of licensing enough content to make the service worth your users time, no easy task for a small company. And while we might be approaching the point where a web-based mixing tool could be built (and I’ve seen people try), most DJs will tell you it’s no replacement for desktop software or real turntables at this point;)

By: Ian D. Miller

Ian D. Miller — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:25:06 +0000

Andrew, if they follow that model then they’ll need to know every audio track that is in a mix. That’s part of the interface but is the data that’s input enough for them to actually pay royalties on? Typos in artist names, determining which country an artist is located in and global rights management (a stream request coming from one country vs. another) make paying the appropriate royalties VERY messy.

You’re also assuming that the average person making a playlist and uploading it is actually going to take the time to put in info for each track in their mix. That’s a lot of trust.

I’d advocate for having a licensed DB of tracks (or letting people upload specific tracks you can then ID against Gracenote or similar service, like Lala does) and then let users mix tracks together with voice, etc. in a Flash based studio/mixer app online. That way you have a discrete object (a track) that you can ID and pay royalties on. Accepting a finished mix is always going to be sloppy/tedious to try to analyze and pay royalties on.

By: Sven

Sven — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:55:44 +0000

Let me guess, this is hosted in the cloud? Is that what makes this different?

By: Iowa personal injury

Iowa personal injury — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:43:41 +0000

Great idea. I can’t wait to see how it takes off.

By: Nikhil Shah

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:29:06 +0000

Thanks for so many great comments guys! We’re excited about launch and overwhelmed by all the positive feedback we’ve been getting.

In response to some of the qs above, we are a radio service that plays radio shows – not songs strung together in playlists or by algorithms. That’s why we’re the YouTube of radio unlike services like Last.fm etc (which, by the way, we love).

Bigup for the love!

By: Daniel Krause

Daniel Krause — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:53:42 +0000

I personally found the interface very straightforward. A service like this has indeed been lacking on the web for extended audio content. Mixcloud ought to work with the labels to make them understand how they could help each other as often I listen to radioshows, such as the essential mix online, or podcasts and find myself wanting to download music I hear. It’s an interesting concept, well designed and carried through. Kudos to the mixcloud team. Now to see if it will blow up virally…

By: Andrew L

Andrew L — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:47:18 +0000

Actually it’s legal to play copyrighted music as long as you pay royalty fees to the appropriate organization – which would be Soundexchange, the digital wing of the RIAA in the States. Looks like the UK it’s this http://www.prsformusic.com

Only issue is of course whether they can afford the cost of millions of users generating royalty fees.

By: Darshan Sanghrajka

Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:44:55 +0000

Awesome – can’t wait for Mixcloud to hit the ball out of the beta park! The team are great guys and have worked hard to make it happen. The main thing is the founders actually love what they do and have been DJ’s for years and so, are doing this because they know it’s needed and are passionate about it! It’s refreshing to see this in today’s tech scene.

Good luck guys!

By: Andrew L

Andrew L — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:44:17 +0000

Nevermind, I could have just read the FAQ -

http://www.mixcloud.com/faq/#link5

By: Toffer Peak

Toffer Peak — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:35:38 +0000

YouTube of Radio? Aren’t LaLa, Last.fm, Pandora, GrooveShark, etc already the YouTube’s of Radio? I really think they need to come up with a better description of what they are providing because that is a need that has already been filled multiple times over. Worse, after trying it out I must say the previous sites have done it much better, the interface is simply clumsy and confusing. I’ll try it out for a few more minutes but this looks like it needs a lot more work to make me want to come back a second time.

By: R S

R S — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:21:45 +0000

Yes! Hopefully, this will bring the needed change to current state of internet radio.

By: Megan A. Bourne

Megan A. Bourne — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:09:28 +0000

I agree that internet radio has languished – and it looked so promising 10 years ago! Looking forward to watching Mixcloud take off.

By: Andrew L

Andrew L — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:07:27 +0000

I’m curious how the licensing/ royalty system works for this. There’s been a lot of talk recently about how unaffordable it is to set up an online radio business because of the high per play song costs from Soundexchange and other royalty collection groups (which might have something to do with it being the orphan child as the article puts it). Is Mixcloud doing anything new here or is it simply paying a song by song fee like the rest of them?

By: Ian D. Miller

Ian D. Miller — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:06:02 +0000

Am I really the only one wondering about legality of this service? I love music sites and there IS a need for a service like this, but there’s no way this will last in the current form. Music uploaded will require moderation for copyright or else they’ll end up in the same place as every other music sharing site before it. They don’t even make any disclaimer on their upload page stating you need to own the rights to the uploaded work. They may think that the web radio licenses protect them but there are specific rules that govern sites like Pandora (like not being able to listen to X tracks by the same artist in a row). All they say is you can’t upload single tracks…but they don’t say I can’t upload the entire newly released album by whatever top 40 act I want. They, at the very least, need some much stronger language on the upload page warning people not to upload copyrighted music…

By: James Smith

James Smith — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:47:19 +0000

Awesome site, love it guys!
Can’t wait til the countdown timer hits 0

By: jonny

jonny — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:44:00 +0000

it’s pretty but it completely blows. where’s a playlist? I keep getting interrupted because it only plays one song at a time and then I have to go back and find something else to listen to. Eat crap, mixcloud

By: Nick Hansen

Nick Hansen — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:41:07 +0000

It’s a well-constructed, thoughtful, simply designed yet robust site, which I can really imagine will bring many groups of communities together under one common platform. It deserves to be a grand success.

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