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	<title>Comments on: On startups, nudity, creative disruption and the Spirit of Punk</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-291827</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find the sexual undertones of the project are not what you normally find in a normal business atmosphere. Plus the veiled threats that came out about how some &#039;businessmen&#039; might not do business with a woman who&#039;d been in the calendar - well that says it all really. It&#039;s punk alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find the sexual undertones of the project are not what you normally find in a normal business atmosphere. Plus the veiled threats that came out about how some &#8216;businessmen&#8217; might not do business with a woman who&#8217;d been in the calendar &#8211; well that says it all really. It&#8217;s punk alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Davros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using &#039;Tech&#039; instead of &#039;IT&#039;, wild and crazy. I think theres a place for both. The BCS is great at churning out endless white papers and worrying about offshoring but if I wanted to someone to write the code for my fighter jet or MRI machine they&#039;re the guys I&#039;ll go to.

If I want someone to connect my Twitter feed to a toaster, with obligatory ratings system and RSS feed, then make a 15 minute presentation at an unconfernence likely called tOAst 20:10 NOW &#039;defining the future or bread based social communication&#039; I&#039;ll call in my black rimmed &#039;tech&#039; buddies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using &#8216;Tech&#8217; instead of &#8216;IT&#8217;, wild and crazy. I think theres a place for both. The BCS is great at churning out endless white papers and worrying about offshoring but if I wanted to someone to write the code for my fighter jet or MRI machine they&#8217;re the guys I&#8217;ll go to.</p>
<p>If I want someone to connect my Twitter feed to a toaster, with obligatory ratings system and RSS feed, then make a 15 minute presentation at an unconfernence likely called tOAst 20:10 NOW &#8216;defining the future or bread based social communication&#8217; I&#8217;ll call in my black rimmed &#8216;tech&#8217; buddies.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy James</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-282803</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These people are the continuation of Punk Rock, because they represent creative disruption. Want me to spell it out? They don’t give a fuck. They think nothing of disrobing for a charity, whether other people think it’s shocking or not&quot;

Um, bit of a faulty analogy. The calendar gag was popularized twenty years ago by the Women&#039;s Institute.  The criticism is not that it&#039;s shocking, but that it&#039;s a tawdry, overcooked cliche, full of self-conscious look-at-me wackiness.  Not inventive, not subversive, just tedious in its neediness for pingbacks and RTs.

Admittedly, punk was full of brilliant self-publicists like Malcolm McLaren, who created a noisy press-grabbing &quot;scene&quot; out of not very much substance at all.  Given the frankly feeble track records of most of these self-facilitating calendar nodes, perhaps the comparison&#039;s not so bad.  Small wonder London remains such an entrepreneurial backwater when lame stunts like this are seen as a substitute for the real graft of business-building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These people are the continuation of Punk Rock, because they represent creative disruption. Want me to spell it out? They don’t give a fuck. They think nothing of disrobing for a charity, whether other people think it’s shocking or not&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, bit of a faulty analogy. The calendar gag was popularized twenty years ago by the Women&#8217;s Institute.  The criticism is not that it&#8217;s shocking, but that it&#8217;s a tawdry, overcooked cliche, full of self-conscious look-at-me wackiness.  Not inventive, not subversive, just tedious in its neediness for pingbacks and RTs.</p>
<p>Admittedly, punk was full of brilliant self-publicists like Malcolm McLaren, who created a noisy press-grabbing &#8220;scene&#8221; out of not very much substance at all.  Given the frankly feeble track records of most of these self-facilitating calendar nodes, perhaps the comparison&#8217;s not so bad.  Small wonder London remains such an entrepreneurial backwater when lame stunts like this are seen as a substitute for the real graft of business-building.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Young</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-282386</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, I&#039;ll play bass. You can refer to me by my stage name - Code Bass..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, I&#8217;ll play bass. You can refer to me by my stage name &#8211; Code Bass..</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Destin</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-282040</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Destin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said guv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said guv.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, yes, that&#039;s what I&#039;m saying - keep government money out of funding, and incentivise a new wave of angels who can create lots and lots of fast moving startups that also get the opportunity to fail without too much fallout - that will create the innovation culture we need. You can&#039;t be a punk without first failing to play guitar, but then learning. U2 were punks, but eventually learnt their instruments. We need that culture in business and the faster we get it the faster we&#039;ll virally spread the notion of people taking up the tools to help themselves - not waiting for government bailouts or for &#039;someone else&#039; to give them a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, yes, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying &#8211; keep government money out of funding, and incentivise a new wave of angels who can create lots and lots of fast moving startups that also get the opportunity to fail without too much fallout &#8211; that will create the innovation culture we need. You can&#8217;t be a punk without first failing to play guitar, but then learning. U2 were punks, but eventually learnt their instruments. We need that culture in business and the faster we get it the faster we&#8217;ll virally spread the notion of people taking up the tools to help themselves &#8211; not waiting for government bailouts or for &#8216;someone else&#8217; to give them a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Lewis</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281921</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. You&#039;ve articulated something that I&#039;ve felt for a while, but haven&#039;t been able to put into words - the phrase &quot;IT&quot; feels corporate, dull, and, quite frankly, boring. &quot;Tech&quot; is vibrant, dynamic and fun.

I&#039;ve posted this article to http://unistartups.slinkset.com/ - Hacker News for British students building startups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. You&#8217;ve articulated something that I&#8217;ve felt for a while, but haven&#8217;t been able to put into words &#8211; the phrase &#8220;IT&#8221; feels corporate, dull, and, quite frankly, boring. &#8220;Tech&#8221; is vibrant, dynamic and fun.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted this article to <a href="http://unistartups.slinkset.com/" rel="nofollow">http://unistartups.slinkset.com/</a> &#8211; Hacker News for British students building startups.</p>
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		<title>By: Get your Ram Disk out for charity as UK Tech Scene launches nude calendar &#124; The Daily Dust &#124; UK News &#124; Good News</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281908</link>
		<dc:creator>Get your Ram Disk out for charity as UK Tech Scene launches nude calendar &#124; The Daily Dust &#124; UK News &#124; Good News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Mike Butcher at Techcrunch Europe for the Punk reasoning to get naked! Now go buy one!   Share This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Mike Butcher at Techcrunch Europe for the Punk reasoning to get naked! Now go buy one!   Share This [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damon Oldcorn</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281891</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon Oldcorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice one Mike - keep kicking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one Mike &#8211; keep kicking</p>
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		<title>By: Milo Yiannopoulos</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281890</link>
		<dc:creator>Milo Yiannopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll do PR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll do PR!</p>
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		<title>By: hermione way</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281863</link>
		<dc:creator>hermione way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I be the drummer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I be the drummer?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Destin</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281861</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Destin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No government money, thank you.  Government please focus on really great science, education and infrastructure.   Keep up some of the good work Nesta is doing such as bringing over valley luminaries, and yes do sing the praises of entrepreneurship to young people through initiatives like entrepreneurship week.

But stop wasting our money investing in companies and funds. 

Give tax and social security breaks to innovative companies and the people who back them.  Make rules for issuing options simple and tax efficient. Give us the framework and the scientists.  Give us the engineers and the felixibility to fail.  Then let us get on with it.

I have to smile (gently) as the punk comparison.  How many of us are willing to let go of the profitability and success ethos in true punk style ?   How disruptive are we willing to be to our own preconceived ideas ?  Can we challenge our own club and decide not to join it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No government money, thank you.  Government please focus on really great science, education and infrastructure.   Keep up some of the good work Nesta is doing such as bringing over valley luminaries, and yes do sing the praises of entrepreneurship to young people through initiatives like entrepreneurship week.</p>
<p>But stop wasting our money investing in companies and funds. </p>
<p>Give tax and social security breaks to innovative companies and the people who back them.  Make rules for issuing options simple and tax efficient. Give us the framework and the scientists.  Give us the engineers and the felixibility to fail.  Then let us get on with it.</p>
<p>I have to smile (gently) as the punk comparison.  How many of us are willing to let go of the profitability and success ethos in true punk style ?   How disruptive are we willing to be to our own preconceived ideas ?  Can we challenge our own club and decide not to join it ?</p>
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		<title>By: James Law</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281652</link>
		<dc:creator>James Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me! Me! I know *all* the chords to Ever Fallen in Love and Pretty Vacant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me! Me! I know *all* the chords to Ever Fallen in Love and Pretty Vacant!</p>
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		<title>By: Simone Brummelhuis</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/16/on-startups-nudity-creative-disruption-and-the-spirit-of-punk/comment-page-1/#comment-281630</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone Brummelhuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to be in that band, singing, I once did audition (i.e. pitched) for a band in my twenties, and I failed. I was devastated. I hope that lost pitch does not matter, because accepting failures and go-on is part of a disruptive, startup culture and .. hopefully of a band. So I will pitch again for a place in the band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be in that band, singing, I once did audition (i.e. pitched) for a band in my twenties, and I failed. I was devastated. I hope that lost pitch does not matter, because accepting failures and go-on is part of a disruptive, startup culture and .. hopefully of a band. So I will pitch again for a place in the band.</p>
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