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	<title>Comments on: European startups need to work as hard as Valley ones &#8211; or forget it</title>
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		<title>By: Tomas Turek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Turek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that in the startups I am meeting there is a lot of enthusiasm from the people who start to build something, much less from the people who work for them. It is difficult to motivate these employees often, i believe largely because it is not as easy to IPO, sell to Google, as it is if you are constantly around people who talk to these big guys all the time - therefore its not that exciting if you dont have that clear goal. Because of this it is more difficult to succeed with your product of you can get the raising capital buzz around it for everyone to see. I also hope this will change soon.

Its cultural thing, but I guess it also depends on the country , not just US/EU. In Prague, people, my friends are very entrepreneur and we work all the time too, lunch, dinner, party, exachange cards, talk about new opportunities, exchange information, and also discuss whats happening on the big scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that in the startups I am meeting there is a lot of enthusiasm from the people who start to build something, much less from the people who work for them. It is difficult to motivate these employees often, i believe largely because it is not as easy to IPO, sell to Google, as it is if you are constantly around people who talk to these big guys all the time &#8211; therefore its not that exciting if you dont have that clear goal. Because of this it is more difficult to succeed with your product of you can get the raising capital buzz around it for everyone to see. I also hope this will change soon.</p>
<p>Its cultural thing, but I guess it also depends on the country , not just US/EU. In Prague, people, my friends are very entrepreneur and we work all the time too, lunch, dinner, party, exachange cards, talk about new opportunities, exchange information, and also discuss whats happening on the big scene.</p>
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		<title>By: lyle and scott sale</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyle and scott sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Need work &#124; LogoRequired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need work &#124; LogoRequired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] European startups need to work as hard as Valley ones – or forget itThis is our third guest post written by a London-based VC. To allow them to speak plainly without jeopardising their fund or their &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] European startups need to work as hard as Valley ones – or forget itThis is our third guest post written by a London-based VC. To allow them to speak plainly without jeopardising their fund or their &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: شكشكه</title>
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		<dc:creator>شكشكه</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 07:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote in Tech Crunch some good points about how the work ethic in the Valley is different than in Europe: And while this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Yo-Yo Life of a Tech Entrepreneur – A Cautionary Tale &#124; Bookmarks</title>
		<link>http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/11/20/european-startups-need-to-work-as-hard-as-valley-ones-or-forget-it/comment-page-3/#comment-370039</link>
		<dc:creator>The Yo-Yo Life of a Tech Entrepreneur – A Cautionary Tale &#124; Bookmarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 08:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and also has an update at the end.TechCrunch Europe ran an article in November of last year that European startups need to work as hard as those in Silicon Valley and I echoed the sentiment in my post about the need for entrepreneurs to be maniacal about their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and also has an update at the end.TechCrunch Europe ran an article in November of last year that European startups need to work as hard as those in Silicon Valley and I echoed the sentiment in my post about the need for entrepreneurs to be maniacal about their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geographical Development and Support &#171; Joseph Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geographical Development and Support &#171; Joseph Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with a combination of work work work,the continued development of our local eco-system and a strong relationship with all of the major [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>working hard and working effectively are two different things. It takes the hard reality of no finance and real hunger to work effectively, its easy to just work hard. I remember coming to the houston office and seeing 7 people do the job of one comparable person in the UK. They did longer hours too. Nobody seems to have noticed that many of them were not actually producing anything. The only thing that matters is what you produce. The question is, given all the money currently, is Silicon Valley still producing a good ROI relative to other areas?

Also having that Silicon Valley culture around you all the time is also problematic, it closes your eyes to real world problems, to normal things. Its abnormal to be surrounded by one type of person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>working hard and working effectively are two different things. It takes the hard reality of no finance and real hunger to work effectively, its easy to just work hard. I remember coming to the houston office and seeing 7 people do the job of one comparable person in the UK. They did longer hours too. Nobody seems to have noticed that many of them were not actually producing anything. The only thing that matters is what you produce. The question is, given all the money currently, is Silicon Valley still producing a good ROI relative to other areas?</p>
<p>Also having that Silicon Valley culture around you all the time is also problematic, it closes your eyes to real world problems, to normal things. Its abnormal to be surrounded by one type of person.</p>
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		<title>By: Interactive Media, Startup, &#38; Social Media in the Middle East &#8211; Silicon Arabia (Part 3): The Talent Equation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interactive Media, Startup, &#38; Social Media in the Middle East &#8211; Silicon Arabia (Part 3): The Talent Equation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Europe recently published a post on this topic. It was written by an anonymous European venture capitalist about the European work [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 10 skills I look for before writing a check, Part 2: Perspiration and Appetite for Risk &#8212; techshots</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 skills I look for before writing a check, Part 2: Perspiration and Appetite for Risk &#8212; techshots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UK article by an anonymous VC (yes, I think posting anonymously is chicken shit) that talked about the work ethic of European tech companies versus those Silicon Valley. I retweeted this article and got some people in Europe telling me it was unfair to stereotype this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Diogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I couldn&#039;t read all the comments (too many) but I agree and disagree.
There isn&#039;t any proved formula for building Silicon Valley so these are all opinions, including mine :)

I don&#039;t know the statistics but even if most start-ups don&#039;t work late, there must be some that do and none of those (correct me if I&#039;m wrong) achieved the size of Facebook, Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Apple ... (and so on), which means it can&#039;t be the only reason.

I&#039;m a Portuguese living and working in UK and from my European experience I would say that we&#039;re pessimist about life and organizations. I find lots of people that complain and take no action.
We complain because of the government, we complain with our benefits, we complain... we actually argue &quot;who has more problems&quot;, &quot;who had the worst day&quot;, &quot;who works for the worst employer&quot;, &quot;who gets less benefits&quot; and we usually answer &quot;Me!&quot;.
It sounds as we were too concerned with problems instead of solutions...

On top of this, we&#039;ve built an imagine of wealthy people that doesn&#039;t help.

In Portugal, they have places to eat until really late, really cheap infrastructures with conditions for twitter like companies, etc but it still doesn&#039;t work. A common comment to hear is &quot;I&#039;m not going to contribute to my boss&#039; wealth while he sits all they talking to the phone&quot; and other variants of the same mindset.
We want a &quot;safe&quot; job with the benefits of being a successful entrepreneur. Risk is a bad thing here.

On the other end, we still have places where we work :) at least here we work a lot :) and I must admit, it gets hard when you&#039;re trying to make a prototype of something after working 10 - 12 hours and sleeping less than 6h. But it&#039;s worth doing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I couldn&#8217;t read all the comments (too many) but I agree and disagree.<br />
There isn&#8217;t any proved formula for building Silicon Valley so these are all opinions, including mine <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the statistics but even if most start-ups don&#8217;t work late, there must be some that do and none of those (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) achieved the size of Facebook, Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Apple &#8230; (and so on), which means it can&#8217;t be the only reason.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Portuguese living and working in UK and from my European experience I would say that we&#8217;re pessimist about life and organizations. I find lots of people that complain and take no action.<br />
We complain because of the government, we complain with our benefits, we complain&#8230; we actually argue &#8220;who has more problems&#8221;, &#8220;who had the worst day&#8221;, &#8220;who works for the worst employer&#8221;, &#8220;who gets less benefits&#8221; and we usually answer &#8220;Me!&#8221;.<br />
It sounds as we were too concerned with problems instead of solutions&#8230;</p>
<p>On top of this, we&#8217;ve built an imagine of wealthy people that doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
<p>In Portugal, they have places to eat until really late, really cheap infrastructures with conditions for twitter like companies, etc but it still doesn&#8217;t work. A common comment to hear is &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to contribute to my boss&#8217; wealth while he sits all they talking to the phone&#8221; and other variants of the same mindset.<br />
We want a &#8220;safe&#8221; job with the benefits of being a successful entrepreneur. Risk is a bad thing here.</p>
<p>On the other end, we still have places where we work <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  at least here we work a lot <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  and I must admit, it gets hard when you&#8217;re trying to make a prototype of something after working 10 &#8211; 12 hours and sleeping less than 6h. But it&#8217;s worth doing <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Astor Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astor Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesson you will learn is that no one is interested to slave away to exhaustion on a fixed salary, to boost your business. Its unreasonable expectations and I constantly see startups demanding this super worker that has talents they themselves don&#039;t possess - and all for 10 euro an hour...
This is not realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson you will learn is that no one is interested to slave away to exhaustion on a fixed salary, to boost your business. Its unreasonable expectations and I constantly see startups demanding this super worker that has talents they themselves don&#8217;t possess &#8211; and all for 10 euro an hour&#8230;<br />
This is not realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Astor Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astor Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... I&#039;m lost here. LondonVC is referring to business startup and entrepreneurs - not to employees. As a business owner you get inspiration from growing revenues. So why should a small wage employee on fixed income respond to the thread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I&#8217;m lost here. LondonVC is referring to business startup and entrepreneurs &#8211; not to employees. As a business owner you get inspiration from growing revenues. So why should a small wage employee on fixed income respond to the thread?</p>
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		<title>By: Astor Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astor Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expecting others to have your own work criteria and entrepreneurial spirit is unreaonsable. You know how difficult it is just to find ONE person why combines two great business qualities? If they had all the business qualities you want, plus the tech talent you need - they won&#039;t stay with you or need you.
In my view, its far better if the people working with you don&#039;t possess too much of too many great qualities. If they&#039;re good at THEIR job, that&#039;s good enough for me. If they know too much, its just a matter of time they will take ideas from you and take off on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expecting others to have your own work criteria and entrepreneurial spirit is unreaonsable. You know how difficult it is just to find ONE person why combines two great business qualities? If they had all the business qualities you want, plus the tech talent you need &#8211; they won&#8217;t stay with you or need you.<br />
In my view, its far better if the people working with you don&#8217;t possess too much of too many great qualities. If they&#8217;re good at THEIR job, that&#8217;s good enough for me. If they know too much, its just a matter of time they will take ideas from you and take off on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Astor Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astor Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>France?? That&#039;s funny because in my experience, the French (and the Spaniards) are the laziest workers of all. Sure, one or two may pop above the crowds, but the majority won&#039;t utilize their time well and spend the enire day wasting time. The Brits like to earn their money - and many do earn a lot, - so its a bit odd to hear they would be slacking which I haven&#039;t noticed much.
The main difference between Europe vs the US is that americans strive to get the basic living security all Europeans have no matter how little or much they work. I think earning money has greater possibility when working efficiently than working long hours or around the clock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France?? That&#8217;s funny because in my experience, the French (and the Spaniards) are the laziest workers of all. Sure, one or two may pop above the crowds, but the majority won&#8217;t utilize their time well and spend the enire day wasting time. The Brits like to earn their money &#8211; and many do earn a lot, &#8211; so its a bit odd to hear they would be slacking which I haven&#8217;t noticed much.<br />
The main difference between Europe vs the US is that americans strive to get the basic living security all Europeans have no matter how little or much they work. I think earning money has greater possibility when working efficiently than working long hours or around the clock.</p>
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		<title>By: Astor Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astor Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see you adding your name either to your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see you adding your name either to your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Executives and employees regularly working 9-6 and clock-watching/holiday-counting is a symptom of low morale and weak leadership and alignment within an organization. And a big warning sign for me. Your celebration of long-hours as some sort of panacea really misses the point.

Employees, founders and investors voluntarily going above and beyond for the cause is a by-product of having strong leadership who have clearly articulated their vision and empowered their team.

I think the Valley has an advantage over London/UK in that the talent pool is small-company savvy and individuals will vote with their feet as soon as it is apparent the endeavour is not viable. At-will employment works well for investors by killing the weaker small companies quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Executives and employees regularly working 9-6 and clock-watching/holiday-counting is a symptom of low morale and weak leadership and alignment within an organization. And a big warning sign for me. Your celebration of long-hours as some sort of panacea really misses the point.</p>
<p>Employees, founders and investors voluntarily going above and beyond for the cause is a by-product of having strong leadership who have clearly articulated their vision and empowered their team.</p>
<p>I think the Valley has an advantage over London/UK in that the talent pool is small-company savvy and individuals will vote with their feet as soon as it is apparent the endeavour is not viable. At-will employment works well for investors by killing the weaker small companies quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: What Makes an Entrepreneur? Perspiration (6/11)</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Makes an Entrepreneur? Perspiration (6/11)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] article  by an anonymous VC (yes, I think posting anonymously is chicken shite) that talked about the work ethic of European tech companies versus those Silicon Valley.  I retweeted this article and get some people in Europe telling me it was unfair.  It&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is weak. And coming from a VC with probably an academic degree it is even more weak.
In fact it could have been written by a high school student. Why?

It is completely lacking all scientific proof. Where is the proof that Silicon Valley startups are more successful than those in Europe?
Where is the proof that working all those hours makes them more successful? IF they are more successful.

And I also find it utterly disgusting in its lack of ethics. Sure be an asshole and work your employees to death. You&#039;ll get rich if you sell, and they get?

PS: In case you were wondering about my political color, I am a capitalist and in general hate socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is weak. And coming from a VC with probably an academic degree it is even more weak.<br />
In fact it could have been written by a high school student. Why?</p>
<p>It is completely lacking all scientific proof. Where is the proof that Silicon Valley startups are more successful than those in Europe?<br />
Where is the proof that working all those hours makes them more successful? IF they are more successful.</p>
<p>And I also find it utterly disgusting in its lack of ethics. Sure be an asshole and work your employees to death. You&#8217;ll get rich if you sell, and they get?</p>
<p>PS: In case you were wondering about my political color, I am a capitalist and in general hate socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgi Kadrev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgi Kadrev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what else to say besides that I completely agree with this post.
My personal experience shows that when you push things - they happen, and when not - they simply start to decay and you loose even your own vision and confidence.

@Rene: As far as I see, the post itself clearly states that working hard doesn&#039;t literally means &quot;working&quot;, but also thinking and looking for opportunities everywhere and all the time.

Everyone has its periods of bad condition but &quot;it&#039;s a matter of life and death&quot; for your start-up to overcome them without excessive amount of complains and self-excuses.

Being an European I agree one more time that we must stop to concentrate on the problems, lack of entrepreneurial ecosystem, etc... but start to think on solutions, building this missing ecosystem, and hard-working/thinking.

Despite being controversial and about one-year-old, I personally see the following post  as still being very current:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/13/joie-de-vivre-the-europeans-are-out-to-lunch/


P.S.: The fact that the LondonVC is anonymous doesn&#039;t bother me at all :-)

Bests</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what else to say besides that I completely agree with this post.<br />
My personal experience shows that when you push things &#8211; they happen, and when not &#8211; they simply start to decay and you loose even your own vision and confidence.</p>
<p>@Rene: As far as I see, the post itself clearly states that working hard doesn&#8217;t literally means &#8220;working&#8221;, but also thinking and looking for opportunities everywhere and all the time.</p>
<p>Everyone has its periods of bad condition but &#8220;it&#8217;s a matter of life and death&#8221; for your start-up to overcome them without excessive amount of complains and self-excuses.</p>
<p>Being an European I agree one more time that we must stop to concentrate on the problems, lack of entrepreneurial ecosystem, etc&#8230; but start to think on solutions, building this missing ecosystem, and hard-working/thinking.</p>
<p>Despite being controversial and about one-year-old, I personally see the following post  as still being very current:<br />
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/13/joie-de-vivre-the-europeans-are-out-to-lunch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/13/joie-de-vivre-the-europeans-are-out-to-lunch/</a></p>
<p>P.S.: The fact that the LondonVC is anonymous doesn&#8217;t bother me at all <img src='http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bests</p>
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		<title>By: Leapfroglog - Jane Jacobs and London&#8217;s Old Street area</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leapfroglog - Jane Jacobs and London&#8217;s Old Street area</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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