Will The Sugababes put women off Windows 7? Or not? I’m confused.
by Mike Butcher
on November 24, 2009

Please help me everyone, I’m confused.

Today the WITsend blog on ComputerWeekly, a blog called ‘A place for women in IT’, asks “Will tech companies ever learn?” Apparently Microsoft, in making girl band The Sugababes the new face of Windows 7 (at least in the UK), has made a mistake. WiTsend says that The Sugababes are aimed at tweeny-bopper eight-year-old girls who are “not exactly the biggest consumers of computer operating systems”. Thus the campaign will not appeal to grown up women who do actually buy PCs.

Admittedly the blog admits that in using a pop band (it quite easily have been a boy band I guess) who are not known for their intellectual capacity so much as their ability to kick out a pop track while looking good, Microsoft is cleverly showing that just about anyone, wow even bubble-gum pop bands, can use Windows 7.

However, it adds:

“But why we are hearing this from a girl band whose main audience must be pre-teen is a bit baffling. It’s a perfect example of how tech companies feel the need to make something glossy and pretty before women will even glance at it. If I want something pretty, I’ll buy a bloody necklace. Everyone likes nice-looking technology (see the universal appeal of Apple) but you do not need to make tech “glamourous” to make women want to buy it. In fact, it puts a lot of them off.”

WITsend is not the only tech blog aimed at women that’s annoyed. So is BitchBuzz.

Now, here’s the thing – I’m confused. I’m not so much confused by the point that tech companies continually do slightly odd things to market at women. The amount of pink laptops and netbooks I see suggests a pretty ham-fisted approach to marketing tech to women. But they seem to elicit two different responses from the women in tech I know. On the one hand some go “Ugh, not another pink laptop” and others I know go “Hey, cool laptop – and it comes in pink!”. I’m going to leave that whole debate aside.

What I’m confused about is more the WITsend post itself.

Most of the actual research seems to suggest that there has been a decline in the number of women in the technology sector due to various things: pay not keeping pace with men, ‘casual’ sexist attitudes and comments in the workplace, not enough other women there already – things like that.

The research I’ve read generally says that to alleviate this problem there needs to be more activity done to engage with young girls at an early age to suggest to them that technology is NOT just for the boys.

So, guess what? Wouldn’t it make sense to hire a girl band. e.g. The Sugababes, who are generally known to appeal to young, aspirational girls. This a) addresses a market rarely addressed by tech companies (obviously that’s to Microsoft’s benefit in marketing terms in this specific instance) and b) there may be a wider knock-on, long term effect of encouraging more young women to eventually enter into the tech industry. I even remember Atomic Kitten (remember them?) being used to promote some mobile service many years ago.

So, I ask: is this a “good thing” or a “bad thing”?

A lot of the time when this debate comes up I see women bloggers saying there should be more done with girls in schools to encourage them to get into tech.

Then I see a post like this attacking a tech company for aiming at young girls.

Please help me understand, I’m just a simple guy. And I’ve probably missed something.

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  • Rebecca Thomson

    I just see this as one of those ham-fisted attempts to market to women.

    The reason I posted on it was because the Sugababes appeal to young girls. I don’t see why Microsoft would ever want to advertise this to young girls, because surely most children don’t really know or care about operating systems?

    So I presumed the company must be trying to target adult women with the campaign (or maybe men AND women, i dont know). To me this seems a little odd…a bit like getting John and Edward to sell electric razors to grown men.

    If it really is aimed at girls, and I’ve missed something, then I’ll write a follow-up. But I’d still question why on earth Microsoft is bothering to market a product like this at children.

    You are right about the possible wider effects….girls could potentially see a member of their favourite band with a laptop and it might make them think technology is relevant to them. But this would be a positive side effect of an otherwise patronising ad campaign.

    I think Microsoft should now pay the Sugababes to talk about how fun technology would be as a career, and why girls should be interested in it, and what opportunities there are for them at the company. Then I’d write a glowing post about its ground-breaking attempts to get girls involved in tech.

  • http://www.bitchbuzz.com Cate

    Hmmm, I guess the thing I always forget is that there are women who like pink laptops, and sparkly phones, and therefore there will be women who think having the Sugababes be the new faces of Windows 7 is a good idea, or – dare I say – cool.

    The videos aren’t brilliant, but as I said in my post I did actually learn something, and therefore they did their job.

    I would rather Microsoft pick the Sugababes over JLS or Take That – so, I suppose hats off to them for picking a girl band.

    Sometimes it’s easy to forget these things aren’t always aimed at people/women my age, or that understand as much about tech as I do.

  • http://www.iknowthe.net Emma Kane

    I fall into the camp of pink laptop haters, – I might buy one for my 6 year old but that’s it. But the sugarbabes – what, exactly did they think they’d achieve? Obviously I’m not target audience, and I have indeed not bothered to cross the room to see the Sugababes, but is the internet not already full of cool enough stuff that they need to drag them up in front of the cameras to sell tech? Or is windows 7 just crap then?

  • http://www.eun.org Alexa

    I’m a woman working in tech. I didn’t like pink, or the sugababes, even when I was 9 – my personal heroine was Princess Leia. OK, she still had the Princess tag but at least she told the guys what to do and could handle a blaster.

    Where’s the Princess Leia for this generation? We’re giving them tired role models and stereotyped nonsense. Get a cool/pop girl who actually uses the tech. There are some interesting ones around – like Little Boots. A pop girl, and knows how to use tech herself. Would be much happier with that kind of choice.

    Also makes Msoft look a bit weak compared to Nintendo who got Beyonce to promote DSi… She does her bit to fight stereotypes while wearing a gold leotard!

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    So maybe the better choice would have been a popstar who got famous via using tech in a savvy way? Perhaps that might have been Lilly Allen back in the day when she was considered a MySpace phenomenon (though these days perhaps not). Or at least the modern day equivalent…

  • Andy Dawson

    You can’t spell Sugababes Mike.

  • Andy Dawson

    Please delete my previous comment – I was drunk!

  • Rebecca Thomson

    That would be an interesting idea, then she could talk about how technology helped her. Would be a bit more relevant. Little Boots was a good suggestion.

  • http://www.bitchbuzz.com Cate

    Or PIxie Lott, even. Especially with her Nokia stuff she’s doing at the moment.

  • http://www.sylviedixie.com sylvie

    interesting comments – I think the key factor is that technology is now not restricted to savvy techies and geeky characters – everyone is embracing it because it is easy to use and there is a need for it, women, kids, older generations everyone is coming to grip with new technologies. The techies will remain techies and all credit to them men and women, the rest of us will enjoy tech and may even go for the latest pink, green *toy*. Does it matter really? I think they have it right and no I am not really a Sugarbabe fan but I can understand the value they can add to the campaign.

  • http://twitter.com/brittneybean Brittney Bean

    Most artists who would be considered ‘cool’ would be very reticent to do such an image heavy campaign with Microsoft, as it reflects hugely on their personal image/brand, and Microsoft is the piano tie of tech brands. It’s not even ironic funny. Anyone who tells you the Sugababes are cool has either spent the last five years on ketamine or works for Roc Nation.

    I don’t think Microsoft’s goal was to get more women in the industry (correct me if I’m wrong); they want to sell things, and if glitter covered, neon pink, feathery, flashing objects filled with the sound of auto-tuned, rotating pop groups are what parents are buying their tween (ugh, portmanteau/abbreviation of doom) daughters, then that’s the market they’re going to follow. Microsoft should just be embarrassed for paying for a shoddy campaign.

    Re: Little Boots, the last gig of hers I went to was 90% middle class, mid-30s looking for chairs. She wasn’t marketed to the youth, which is who I assume everyone is talking about, but instead to an older crowd who want to see someone wave their hands around a magic, beat generating ball as opposed to someone flailing around a stage pretending to sing. It’s a shame because she actually did a lot really interesting things with tech and social media on her own and would definitely be a good choice to endorse to a slightly older audience. Pixie Lott’s a better call for grabbing the candy-eared kids, as she does some interesting licensing deals already and gets mainstream, under-16 focused coverage; good call.

    But really are a few pop star endorsements going to get more girls to work in tech? Doubtful. If you want to attract people to an industry, give them money. Lots of it. And maybe free drinks other than beer every once in awhile.

    (And for the love of god don’t think you have to make things sexy, that’s like one step forward and one blow job back. If I wanted sexy, I would have worked in something sexy; sitting in my pajamas in my kitchen shouting at IE6 whilst organising a band’s backline is pretty much the opposite of sexy. If anyone does find that sexy, let me know.)

  • http://thebln.com Mark Littlewood

    This isn’t so much about whether the Sugababes can sell stuff to pre-teens effectively, they can, and not just to pre-teens. I do question whether the Sugababes story is the right one for Windows. Either way, it is proving itself to be a very effective campaign for many reasons: http://thebln.com/2009/11/story-of-windows-is-the-sugababes-story-in-reverse/

  • http://twitter.com/brittneybean Brittney Bean

    Most artists who would be considered ‘cool’ would be very reticent to do such an image heavy campaign with Microsoft, as it reflects hugely on their personal image/brand, and Microsoft is the piano tie of tech brands. It’s not even ironic funny. Anyone who tells you the Sugababes are cool has either spent the last five years on ketamine or works for Roc Nation. The two of them are pretty well suited to each other.

    I don’t think Microsoft’s goal was to get more women in the industry (correct me if I’m wrong); they want to sell things, and if glitter covered, neon pink, feathery, flashing objects filled with the sound of auto-tuned, rotating pop groups are what parents are buying their tween (ugh, portmanteau/abbreviation of doom) daughters, then that’s the market they’re going to follow. Microsoft should just be embarrassed for paying for a shoddy campaign.

    Re: Little Boots, the last gig of hers I went to was 90% middle class, mid-30s looking for chairs. She wasn’t marketed to the youth, which is who I assume everyone is talking about, but instead to an older crowd who want to see someone wave their hands around a magic, beat generating ball as opposed to someone flailing around a stage pretending to sing. It’s a shame because she actually did a lot really interesting things with tech and social media on her own and would definitely be a good choice to endorse to a slightly older audience. Pixie Lott’s a better call for grabbing the candy-eared kids, as she does some interesting licensing deals already and gets mainstream, under-16 focused coverage; good call.

    But really are a few pop star endorsements going to get more girls to work in tech? Doubtful. If you want to attract people to an industry, give them money. Lots of it. And maybe free drinks other than beer every once in awhile.

    (And for the love of god don’t think you have to make things sexy, that’s like one step forward and one blow job back. If I wanted sexy, I would have worked in something sexy; sitting in my pajamas in my kitchen shouting at IE6 whilst organising a band’s backline is pretty much the opposite of sexy. If anyone does find that sexy, let me know.)

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Awesome comment.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    I now think this whole thing was a stroke of genius. It gets the liberal elite geeks hot under the collar for the ‘mistake’ of using such a ‘crass’ pop band and insulting ‘real geeks and real women’. At the same time appealing to a mainstream pop-buying public, as well as tough-to-reach tweeny-boppers who can pester-power their parents into buying Win7. Either that and they just did the whole thing by accident. Somehow I doubt it.

  • http://twitter.com/brittneybean Brittney Bean

    If they did it on purpose, I want the number of the person in charge of the campaign… I am not above a little manufactured pop in my life, my gig list is equal parts hipster bs and MTV TRL; I’ve got the vapours over people slapping marketing to sell a product together with marketing to employ.

    As always, it’s hilarious to see everyone get their panties in a wad about how tech is marketed to women. Is it better in any other industry?

    Is anyone going to buy Win7 because of the Sugababes? I have no idea. But if I had to guess… probs, not, cuz they totes don’t care what kind of thing is on their laptop as *long* as they can get facebook and im. Riiiiiiiiight?

  • BorkBoy

    Was drunk? You sobered up in 7 minutes?

  • http://www.timacheson.com/ Tim Acheson

    May I just say, wow! Because this is a very good marketing campaign. It’s got this website and various commentators talking about it, adding to the buzz and extending reach and exposure. It’s a great website, a good product, and all round a good project from MS.

    Of course, this is not the only marketing campaign for Windows 7, it’s just one of them, which is aimed at that particular target audience.

    But look out for this campaign at future marketing/web awards. This one certainly gets my nomination.

  • http://www.timacheson.com/ Tim Acheson

    P.S. I write this as an objective observer, though the official website http://www.sugababeslovewindows7.com was produced by a colleague. And I’m not surprised to see MS working with the Sugababes like this. MS has good links with the UK music industry, as we saw recently when Lilly Allen fronted the Xbox Lips promotion on the http://www.singwithlips.co.uk website.

  • ArrowSmith

    The fact is real music artists use Mac hardware 99% of the time. That 1% are idiots.

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