The Yo-Yo Life of a Tech Entrepreneur
by Guest Author
on January 30, 2010

This is a guest post by Mark Suster, a 2x entrepreneur who has gone to the Dark Side of VC. He started his first company in 1999 and was headquartered in London, leaving in 2005 and selling to a publicly traded French services company. He founded his second company in Palo Alto in 2005 and sold this company to Salesforce.com, becoming VP Product Management. He joined GRP Partners in 2007 as a General Partner focusing on early-stage technology companies.

TechCrunch Europe ran an article in November of last year that European startups need to work as hard as those in Silicon Valley and I echoed the sentiment in my post about the need for entrepreneurs to be maniacal about their businesses if one wants to work in the hyper competitive tech world.

yoyoOf course articles like these are going to inflame people because not everybody who is running their own business (or aspires to) wants to believe that you need to go all out to compete and win on a global scale. I agree that not all businesses require this level of dedication and the lifestyle choice isn’t for everybody. But … global tech does require an absolute, singular commitment level.

Having been through this all before myself I would like to tell a cautionary tale that can happen to the best of us: The Yo-Yo life of the tech entrepreneur. Mine started this way …

I started my first company in the “go-go years” of the Internet: 1999. We were based in London. We raised a seed round of capital in 1999 and our first venture capital round was the first week of March 2000. We were immediately thrust into a globally competitive market for B2B collaboration tools.

Our first big institutional round was $16.5 million, which by any normal standards was too much money. But this was early 2000 and our US competitors had already closed rounds North of $45 million. They announced their European expansion plans and put pressure on us to feel the need to keep up.

Within a year I hired 92 permanent staff and another 30 full time contractors. We built 4 products simultaneously to compete with the perceived need to offer end-to-end solutions like our US counterparts. I was on an airplane 2-3 times / week meeting potential customers, investors, employees, business partners and the press. I stayed up late every night after a day of meetings doing email until 3am so that I didn’t feel out of touch with our product and sales pipelines.

Dinners were consumed with customers or in hotels and often past 10pm. Alcohol wasn’t consumed in enormous quantities (OK, well, occasionally it was) but it was an ever present fixture in our socializing. It also served as the trophy for any big business win.

We had a $40 million round lined up to close in the Autumn of 2000. But the stock market continued to tank and one of our investors who had committed $12 million pulled out. Fawk!

I flew from San Diego (where I was visiting) to New York to persuade investors to stick with us. I then caught the red eye the same night to Paris to meet our investors there. I took the night train that night to London to try and hold investors firm. I didn’t sleep much for days on end.

We worked out a plan to merge our company with another European competitor, raise money from both sets of investors, cut the cost base and live to fight another day. The investors of our competitor agreed to a merger and we were going to raise $15 million between the two companies. And at the 11th hour they pulled out. We were weeks from bankruptcy. I tell that story in my post about the need for entrepreneurs to show resiliency.

We cut staff from 92 to 33 employees. We found a way to make our venture capital last when it shouldn’t have, at around the same time one of my all time favorite New Yorker cartoons was published on this topic.

We found a way to get a round of venture capital closed after all of this. Our existing investors supported us and a new lead came in.

extremely fatiguedI somehow never really felt stressed during all of this. At least not externally. Immediately following the closing of the round I flew out to a big real estate conference in France to meet with prospective customers. On the trip I nearly collapsed. I felt dizzy and had an aching in my chest. I started feeling panic attacks. I had never had any symptoms like this in my life.

I was now 33 years old. I had always been very athletic, but a combination of no sleep, late night food, too much alcohol and stress that I didn’t acknowledge started to take its toll. I had probably gained 15-20 pounds in the previous year.

I plodded through the conference and went straight to a doctor in London. I was convinced I was having heart problems. After an EKG and a treadmill test it turns out that my heart was fine. The doctor suspected I had ‘acid reflux’ because the symptoms are very similar. The doctor told me that while I didn’t ever show my anxiety to my friends and colleagues or even acknowledge it myself, my body still went through the stress internally.

If you’re still young I’m sure you think it would never happen to you – you’re fit, right? Age and life catches up with you. I was you, too.

I immediately cut out all most of the things the doctor ordered: coffee, orange juice and spicy foods. I cut down on the volume of food that I ate at any one sitting. I cut back dramatically on alcohol but wasn’t prepared to totally give up red wine.

My life changed dramatically. I took up running again. I woke up extra early (often before 6am) to get runs in. I still traveled for work all the time but I planned runs everywhere I went. I scheduled runs with teammates and even with customers. It became a social activity. 8-miler in Munich with the CEO of a company we were trying to buy. 7-miler in Dusseldorf with Stuart Lander, my close friend and associate. 10k in Cologne with the CEO of my largest customer.

I ran a half marathon, which I crushed in a personal best 1:42. I decided to run the London Marathon, which I completed this in 3:57 and was on top of the world.

But the story doesn’t end there. April 29th, 2003 my first son was born. Sleep deprivation kicked in but my work responsibilities did not wane. My exercise routine was torpedoed by waking up 3 times / night, but my travel schedule persisted. We set up a development center in India and I had to be there for three weeks to tour all of the prospective cities. We opened a US office which increased my air mileage.

Then we merged with a US competitor and I moved from London to Silicon Valley. I started my second company while retaining a board seat at my first company. I had my second child and commuted every month for 18 months between San Francisco and London. We sold the first company to a French services company and were racing around getting our second company off of the ground. About 18 months after building the product for the second company we received an offer to be acquired by Salesforce.com

overweight maleI was now 38 and in worse shape than my previous experience. The time zones, the travel, 2 kids, pressure, managing the sales process, speaking at conferences Somehow I had yo-yo’d back to where I was previously.

In early 2007 I focused exclusively on the sale to Salesforce.com. I stopped doing conferences, traveling or pitching to VCs.

As a result I freed up the time to get back into shape. I swam every morning and ran every afternoon. I started “pulling doubles” often doing the swim then run one after the other. I began bike riding and dreamed of become a triathlete again. I lost 22 pounds between January 1st and March 27th through a combination of serious exercise and watching my calorie intake. I was on top of the world again.

Except that after the acquisition, my job at Salesforce.com required that I commute more than an hour each way from Palo Alto to San Francisco. So 2 hours of potential exercise vanished. The work pressure mounted, the food piled in, the sleep disappeared and the exercise was non existent.

I would like to finish this post on a happy note but I can’t. After I left Salesforce.com I moved to LA and became a venture capitalist (no, that’s not the sad part ;-) and had a new challenge to prove myself in a new field. My hours picked up, I worked hard to establish myself in a new city and a new industry. My wife said to me, “I thought you weren’t supposed to work entrepreneur hours when you’re a VC?” I still felt like an entrepreneur. I had something to prove.

I lost perspective and my life hasn’t been in balance since then. Exercise hasn’t been enough of a priority in 2008-09. But now I’m nearly 42. This time it’s for real. After a recent international trip with limited sleep I went to the doctor with chest pains again. It’s still acid reflux. But this time it’s combined with high blood pressure. I’m still in the manageable zone of hypertension but the doctor said I’ve got to change my ways. He also ordered me to take medicine to control my blood pressure.

So the yo-yo continues. But with 2 beautiful kids and a lovely wife I have much more to be serious about. It’s easy in your 20′s to imagine you’d never be in my shoes. I thought that, too. But I’ve spoken with many entrepreneurs in their 30′s who are going through some of the yo-yo health issues that I have brought on by work, travel, food choices and stress. And one doesn’t have to look beyond the most prominent technology bloggers, early-stage Silicon Valley angels or even some of the biggest names in tech to find people suffering like I have been.

It’s far more productive to make sure that exercise and healthy eating creeps into your routine. Find something else to cut out – not this. You know what I’m talking about – it’s far easier to stay in shape than it is to get into shape.

So no prizes for guessing my New Year’s resolution for 2010. I plan to be 25 pounds lighter by December 31st, 2010. Based on experience I know I can do this much more rapidly but I care more about that longer term goal of maintenance.

I’m normally too cool to write posts like this. I prefer to write the December 2010 post about what a great year I had. Somehow this is more honest. And the first 2 steps of achieving any goal are to set metrics (“you manage what you measure”) and to make your goals public (it’s easier to shame yourself into compliance than to be the only person holding yourself accountable). I’ve written about the technology to lose weight in this post.

I plan to keep track on DailyBurn to measure my weight through a new wi-fi enabled scaled from Withings. Anyone care to join me in this challenge?

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  • http://www.techhead.co.uk Simon Seagrave

    Hi Mark,

    An excellent post – really interesting to get an insight into your journey as a tech entrepreneur and the associated health issues that potentially come with this.

    I will be signing up to DailyBurn as I too need to shed more than a couple of pounds. :)

    All the best,

    Simon

  • http://corporate.lexwiser.com Eric

    Thanks that’s great. My new year starts 1st Feb; I had to delay it by a month.
    Very serious to be serious about your health and balance. I feel more achievements professionally in years I run with a goal set such as a Marathon.

  • http://www.edocr.com Manoj Ranaweera

    Hi Mark, thanks for being honest! I know another local tech entrepreneur who put up so much weight which caused him to have surgery, which he managed after selling his business.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately) my life has not been as colourful as yours. My first tech startup flopped after burning everything I had in two years, now I got the second one well positioned for growth with no external capital (and we are working with salesforce.com and putting lot of faith on them!). I also founded a community of tech entrepreneurs, which will be repositioned in Feb 10.

    Just like you, I have also put on weight, but I have never been an athlete, but feel I ought to do something about it as I would be 42 this year. I also got two lovely kids, both girls! And still married (strange to believe sometimes!)!

    Just like to conclude by saying once again, thanks for being honest! You inspire me to do something about getting fit!

    Best regards
    Manoj

  • http://www.quba.co.uk Rob Wilmot

    I can identify completely with what Mark says. As a founding exec of Freeserve in 1998 the feet of my colleague Ajaz Ahmed and myself never touched the ground for the two and a half year roller coaster ride which saw IPO on LSE and NASAQ only ten months of trading and an eventual trade sale to Wanadoo.

    Long hours, little excercise, sporadic eating at odd hours left us both heavier and not as healthy as we would have liked. Both of us ended up with acid reflux and, on a visit to a tech partner in Boston I collapsed and spent the night in hospital with what was eventually diagnosed as physical and mental exhaustion.

    On exiting Freeserve I promised myself that I would never put myself under that sort of pressure again. However there are so many interesting opportunities out there that it’s sometimes difficult to say no.

    Balancing the demands of family, customers, staff, investors, personal wellbeing and ones own internal drive for success is a challenge I wonder if anyone in our 24×7 always on industry can master.

  • http://pluggd.in Arvind

    Lovely post. I was tired of reading the out-of-the-box stories whereas maximum junta goes thru the in-the-box lifestyle. The normal stuff.

    Thoroughly loved it.

  • http://www.alnewkirk.com Al Newkirk

    I agree with everything you said, pretty much word for word. I am in the exact same boat, demanding consulting business with clients and contracts and kids and a house w/wife, etc. I am joining DailyBurn.com, never knew about it until know. I hate excersizing, mainly because I never see/track my progress. This might work for me.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Thanks, Simon. I’m 4 weeks in and doing awesome. Remember, “you manage what you measure!” Good luck.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    I remember the FreeServe ride very well as I was consulting at BT Internet when you guys launched. It was truly innovative.

    I totally identify with this. I, too, said “never again” and thought it was true in 2003 when I ran the London Marathon. But every next opportunity seemed like the most important thing in life – even after I had achieved financial success. I’m now convinced that one performs much better when you’re healthy. 4 weeks into 2010 and I’m certainly feeling that way.

  • http://www.mybanktracker.com Jason Reposa

    Hey Mark,

    Your link for “technology to lose weight” is busted. I’m assuming it was meant to point here:

    http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/01/16/digital-health-becoming-a-reality/

  • GoofyBMan

    Great post, you can’t be a entrepreneur if you aren’t ALWAYS motivated. yes, 3am still up doing coding is over-board but that is what makes us entrepreneurs most of the time.
    I hardly sleep and I guess i haven’t even made it big, medium or anything similar. I keep happy customers, and make money.
    Not keeping customers happy keeps me up if i were to sleep, lol.

    I have noticed the yo-yo lifestyle and my health going down because of it. I stress and not eat, I stress the other day and passed out. It was really weird, and shocking.
    This incident has made myself realize that I may need to concentrate on my health more.

  • http://www.metamorphblog.com Matt Mireles

    Hi Mark,

    As a triathlete and entrepreneur, I know exactly what you mean. At least for me, exercise is one of the first “luxury items” I cut out in my life when things get crazy. For the last year and a half, I’ve been working two day jobs and building SpeakerText. Exercise so often becomes something that I treat as a reward (to myself) for getting stuff done. I’m 29 and I realize that it’s not sustainable, but I tell myself that it’s only temporary during this crazy startup/bootstrap period. Perhaps I should re-consider, but I just don’t know what I could cut out––instead of spending money boozing with clients, I spend most of my time at the office (aka my living room) getting stuff done. So maybe we are/were in somewhat different situations.

    That said, thanks for the reminder/lesson. It’s easy to lose perspective and tell yourself “mañana,” and then mañana never comes.

    -Matt Mireles
    CEO, SpeakerText

  • Scott Drake

    Great post Mark. I appreciate it when people let down their guard enough to be honest about about some of the side effects of the modern lifestyle. I’ve gone through many of the same issues as you and at 39 have learned to take at least marginal care of myself so I’m not spending too much time with my doctor. I attribute it to the modern lifestyle more than entrepreneurship because my wife is starting to show some of the same things and she works for a non-prof. But who knows, maybe our great-grandparents dealt with it too 100 years ago and just sucked it up?

    Thanks for the post and letting people know they’re not alone in experiencing some of these issues.

  • Chris

    Hey Mark (any anyone else),

    I am in the same boat and have been for about two years. I went to my Dr. and she recommended taking anti-anxiety medicine.

    Just out of curiosity, did you take any medication before your high blood pressure meds to help control anxiety/pressure?

    Thanks again – great post!

  • http://www.saaspulse.com Guy Nirpaz

    Hey Mark,

    Great post, very open and candid – the real people behind the success.
    It reminds me of a diner I once had with a very successful silicon valley entrepreneur, I bitched about the difficulties we had in running our startup and wondered how was it for them. He answered with: “which story do you prefer, telling the story backwards or looking at what really happened…”

    Thanks!

  • http://www.dialflow.com/ Curtis Smith

    Mark, I enjoyed that. I’m working on my startup in Cleveland, Ohio. I’ve trained for this my entire life. I’ve lifted weights and ran for the past 25 years and weigh the same as I did when I graduated high school. I’m ready for the ride. Bring it on!

  • Trader Bots

    Great post Mark. Sometimes all we focus on is the fruits and joys of being an entrepreneur.

    Although, I have to say my gf is freaked out after reading this post.

    http://www.traderbots.com

  • http://www.thinkbrilliant.com Aviv

    Great piece here. Hit real close to home.

  • http://www.newmediaplus.net Brett H. Pojunis

    Hey Mark,

    I guess I am still in training because at 30 I am still invincible, lol. My start up is NewMediaPlus.Net so I have been in 16 cities in the last 3 weeks finally got back home to Vegas last night. I will be in SoCal Monday through Thursday and god knows where the following week!

    Hearing your story is another tool in the motivational tool box for me. My friends think I am crazy because I am up by 6am and I go to bed between 2am-4am. My MO is that if I am not going to get at least 2 hours of sleep I work through it.

    The positive end to this story is a liquidity event! We are filing our S-1 at the end of Feb and will begin trading hopefully by May. Then we set out to launch our national retail locations.

    Thanks for today’s motivational pick me up!

  • http://www.meetingwave.com John

    Hi Mark – Great article. To quote a former US Def Secretary, it’s a long hard slog. When I launched my startup, I thought it would much easier. I had resigned from a crueling job that required a lot of travel and crushing hours. I was so confident I’d be on easier (maybe not easy) street, I changed some profile pics on sites to this one:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/13737227@N03/?saved=1

    That lasted about a month until reality set in. It’s been an amazing learning experience, but a lot of hours and hard work.

    I’ve had a analogous (although much much shorter experience) during a visit to Grouse Mountain outside Vancouver. On the way there, my hiker friends picked up loads of energy bars, fruit, water – “for a short hike?” I thought.

    There’s a gondola that goes to the top, but there was a very long line. My experienced hiker friend, formerly in the army, wanted to wait in line so we could hike around at the top, but I saw a sign indicating there was a hiking path to the top. “Why not take that?” I suggested. Well, the path we took is called Grouse Grind. Basically a rough steep staircase going straight up the mountain. While I expected a leisurely walk up an incline, I ended up clamoring to get up the mountain often using my arms to relieve my legs. When we reached the “1/4 mark”, I couldn’t believe we were only 1/4 done and felt like collapsing and rolling up in a fetal position. By that point, I had finished all my alloted drink and food. At the 1/4 mark!! It was a 1.8 mile trail with a 56 per cent slope (30 degrees) and an elevation gain of 2,800 feet (2,830 stairs).

    But we got to the top and walked based down and glad I did it. In the end, if it was easy to launch a startup, probably wouldn’t be as much fun.

    Tip for the overcaffienated looking for sleep – Cherry Juice has a compound like the tryp compound in turkey that helps you sleep.

  • http://dailyburn.com Andy Smith

    Great post Mark.

    I have often heard that doing a startup is a marathon, not a sprint (although it feels like it is at times!). Proper nutrition and exercise is important for anyone, but even more so for an entrepreneur (and I am not saying that just because I run a fitness site).

    When DailyBurn was in Boulder for TechStars ’08, the “do more faster” attitude was great for our company, but terrible for my health. So even though I was on stage pitching for tracking fitness, I was increasingly out of shape.

    Since that time, by going to a pretty strict Paleo/Zone diet and short intense exercise, I am now in the best shape of my life. And what they say is true, being in good shape helps all aspects of your business (focus, energy, determination, etc.). I don’t plan on letting the short-term sprints of business change my workout/diet plans again.

    Let us know if we can be of any help toward meeting your goals!

  • http://www.crossloop.com aditya Vempaty

    Mark,

    As normal your posts always leave me yearning for more!! But what an ingenious way to work out and talk to investors/clients at the same time. The fact that you can work out and convince others to work out with you and talk business just shows your persistence :) So this time around with your yo-yo life how do you plan to keep the weight down in the long term? I have a same issues (lose weight, then putting it on again not enough sleep etc) so curious to hear your strategy on it. Also how did you convince the other company to team up with you?

  • http://jjeffryes.blogspot.com J. Jeffryes

    We have a useful phrase: “work smarter, not harder.”

    What this means is that as soon as you start pulling all nighters, destroying your health, and killing yourself with stress, you’re doing it wrong.

    You’re wasting energy doing the wrong thing and doing it poorly. You’re flailing and panicking. You think if you just work harder, it will somehow work. Sometimes it does. But it would be much better to calm down, de-stress, and regain the clarity necessary to do things right.

    I say this as a veteran of multiple startups and a father. I destroyed myself physically trying to do it all. With my 3rd child I committed myself to giving that up, and being a good father instead of a fool.

    The result is far more efficiency, a more effective startup, no more wasted effort on things that don’t work, and most importantly, I have time to be a real father to my children, instead of being gone or too stressed out all the time.

    Go read 37 Signals, they’ve got it right. You can be successful by killing yourself and doing it wrong, or you can be successful by doing it right and keeping a healthy balance.

  • Noel

    I’m in, 15 pounds is my number. Thanks for your candor on this post, Mark, it was a great read and definitely relevant for me right now. Exercise is the first thing I cut out when things are stressful at work. Skip the gym, head to the office instead. Then, when the stress takes a short rest (a funding round or deal has closed), I look up and realize I’ve forgotten where the gym is. 

    The point of building businesses seems to be lost if you’re not around to enjoy your life for awhile after (or aren’t enjoying it now). Thanks again!

  • Uday

    Dear Mark,

    I heard you speak the other night at UCLA and learned a ton from your feedback to the presenters – I mainly appreciated your honesty because it was the sincerest way to really help founders improve themselves and their product.

    This post gives me a deeper respect for you because as a second time entrepreneur now 37, I work a lot on figuring out a life balance which keeps my longer term commitments (my health, friendships, quality of life) in line with the goals of growing a successful company. Often times it feels it’s not cool to say I don’t want to adopt the bi-polar ride of being an entrepreneur to the exclusion of all else but hearing success stories like yours, especially being honest enough to admit where you’re falling short (and focused on improving), is inspiring.

    Thank you,

    Uday

  • http://dealbk.com Charles Zhang

    Granted, amist the dot com boom, he was able to sell his company. That guy should of focused on the product and marketing. He wasted a lot time raising money and hiring too many employees

    Do you really need $55 million + and 120 employees to develop software? This scale you are competing feature by feature with Oracle and IBM. That is never pretty. You lose the efficiency, agility, and smart code.

  • http://www.ignimedia.com igniman

    You nailed it! If you find your work taking up a bigger part of your life than it should, stop and rethink. Try another idea – hell, you can try a new idea every month. The author seems to be giving the wrong idea that the internet is no fun

  • http://dealbk.com Charles Zhang

    Mark,

    My last comment might be a bit harsh. You have been very success which I can say that I am yet.

    However, I don’t think you have to prove yourself anymore. Enjoy your beautiful kids and family.

  • http://www.salveomt.com Lincoln Nguyen

    Im constantly running into the same work-life balance issues you mentioned. In terms of health, I made it a priority to eat 6 smaller meals a day and forced myself to turn it into an unconscious habit. I’d say diet is 70% of the battle, if not more.

  • http://www.anagraphmedical.com Chris Hall

    I can relate to your health/weight situation, having begun my new startup about 6 months ago – with the pressure of deliverying product, finding investors, etc. – not to mention keeping my Wife happy.
    My solution might not work for everybody, but a variant might: I live in Boston’s South End and I chose to walk to and from our office in Kendall Sq, Cambridge every day. It turns out that at a brisk pace, the walk is about the same time as taking the T (subway) and it guarantees that I get an hour of exercise everyday. Side benefit – walking home late at night is a great “quiet” time. Combined with a little South Beach diet action, I have lost 35 pounds in 3 months.

    Not everybody is in the position of being able to walk to work, but they could do what some of my co-workers do – Park about 10 minutes walk away from work and walk the rest – doesn’t seem like much, but that gives you 20 minutes of exercise every day – better than nothing.

  • http://www.ListingMoves.com Matt Johnson

    Haha this reminds me of me and many other entrepreneurs… We would love nothing more than not to worry about our health; and we usually don’t until we get in trouble and even then we don’t pay enough attention.
    Cheers entrepreneurs

  • Seamus McAteer

    Great piece. I managed to stay in reasonable shape all through building and successfully exiting my last start-up (MMetrics). The key was having a great business partner who believed in work-life balance. We never called each other on week-ends or after a certain hour of the day and I maintained the habit of strenuous exercise every second day regardless of where in the world I was — I was clocking well over 100K flying miles four years running. I am working to build a new business at someone else’s startup and moved from the West to the East Coast. Through it all I maintain some sense of balance, typically by reflecting on how unimportant my work is compared to that of my wife who touches lives in a real way every day as an occupational therapist.

  • http://www.encuentratujob.com.mx Bolsa de Trabajo

    Thanks for share your experience Mark you are an inspiration for all entrepeneurs.

  • http://www.faceyspacey.com James from FaceySpacey.com

    Wow, I have exactly that: ‘acid reflux’ . I’m so happy to read this article, since now I at least know what I have and what I gotta do. Thank you so much.

  • http://www.steinarknutsen.com/about Steinar Knutsen

    Great post and a story I can relate to being a tech entrepreneur myself. Working so hard it’s easy to lose track of time and the priorities in life that offer the greatest reward. Thanks for the tip on dailyburn.com as well.

  • http://www.autorevo.com Mark Hoffman

    Mr. Suster is the same guy who said that “sleep is the enemy”. I’m sorry, but what a complete and utter load of bullshit.

    It’s one thing to be driven, determined and work hard. It’s quite another to think that sleep is optional for high-performance mental tasks.

    If you are digging ditches or doing mindless work, then you can probably safely go without adequate sleep and keep doing your job effectively, at least for a while. But if you have to operate at optimal mental efficiency, then going without sleep is just stupid. Stupid.

    Perhaps it has worked for Mr. Suster, but the odds are not in your favor that it will for you. The VC crowd has convinced an entire generation of entrepreneurs that if you want to have any kind of success, then you have to work 20 hours a day to get there. “Screw your health, screw your family, let’s get rich!” (VCs are usually nothing more than pimps with MBAs, but that’s another story…)

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m all about working hard and making sacrifices to accomplish your goals. But don’t be an idiot. It’s a marathon, not a sprint and you don’t start a marathon by trying to sprint the first mile….

  • techgeek

    u guys are too much into yourself, guys this is the problem every person faces at this age, yes in 30s every person whether entrepreneur or not faces the weight/food problems!

    just be cool and follow simple principles in life to execute whatever you are focused on!

  • Marvin Sanders

    Great post, Mark. It’s easy to feel like others are breezing through the Silicon Valley lifestyle, with some magical ability to handle the business and family pressures, while simultaneously learning two languages and becoming gourmet cooks.

    I had a similar experience at the second startup I worked: Chest pains and dizziness, and my then-girlfriend-now-wife (amazing she stuck with me) forced me to go to the emergency room. They hooked me up to a fancy blood pressure machine and it set off a kind a code blue alarm that sent several people running toward me. My BP was 180/120. I was 35.

    I quit the next day and, sigh, one of the board members convinced me to stay onboard with a big raise and more options. The company went under a couple months later, which is probably the best thing that every happened for my health.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Just tried it – seems to work for me but thanks for pointing out. Maybe they saw and fixed?

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Matt, thanks for the input. At 29 it doesn’t add up as quickly. By mid 30′s what used to work health wise doesn’t. By 40 results start to show. Stick with things now – it’s much easier to stay in shape than to get in shape. Good luck with health AND your startup.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    No, I don’t really suffer from anxiety so I didn’t take drugs. I took drugs for acid reflux for a month and then changes in my diet took controls of things. Good luck.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Re: health – I plan on measuring what I consume. You only manage what you measure so showing myself what I consume and how much I exercise at least forces me to look in the mirror every day and be honest about good or bad behavior.

    I’ve been working out 5x week since January. I went swimming at 5.30am yesterday and 7.00am today (saturday). If you’re committed you’ll make it happen. I find the morning exercise is the ONLY way for me. Once the day is started my chances of working out are near zero. Other people differ but with two kids I can’t really work out when I come home from work. And lunch time ins’t really an option.

    Good luck.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Thank you. Feedback like this is always rewarding.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Charles, you’re totally right. I raised too much money and hired too many people. I freely admit that. If you check out my blog I talk about this mistake all the time. It was “very 1999″ to do so but regardless – it was a mistake. In my second company I only ever raised $500k. And don’t worry about “calling me out” or being harsh – you’re right ;-)

  • Alex

    Awesome post!

  • http://www.milestone-group.com Mark Zawacki

    Great post Mark, and yes, this hits very close to home. We haven’t previously talked about this aspect of our lives, but very similar including doctors orders. Lemme know when you’re in Palo Alto, we’re overdue to catch up and we can do it during a run! – maz

  • http://sigma-hk.com Mark Westling

    So maybe a better phrase would be “Time is the enemy”. I learned long ago what my body needs for optimal, long-term performance, and also how hard I can push it when I need to sprint. Mark’s point (at least my interpretation of it) is that during all the time you’re relaxing, someone who’s more driven is preparing to eat your lunch. It’s your choice — relax and lose, or work hard and win.

    Certain kinds of people have an advantage in technology start-ups. These are the people who love technology, love competing, love being a generalist, and love learning new things constantly. Those who’d rather spend a weekend camping with friends are at a disadvantage, for the same reason that the average athlete will always be at a disadvantage to the guy who spends every waking hour in the gym shooting free-throws.

  • beaulaskey

    Mark,
    Great post on TC.

    I was told long ago by some financial planning guy…always pay yourself first (as in savings, etc) …I’ve always done that financially. Then it dawned on me, why don’t I do that with my own well-being…I always give everything to everyone and everything else first, then I take care of myself if there is any time or energy left over. That’s a quick way to the bottom, finding your self over weight and in the doctors office. It’s crazy and it’s easy to do…been there. Especially when you throw in three kids, you’re always last! I think I’ve finally gotten it turned around…but it takes a lot of work to maintain.

    Ok, to your challenge. Feb 7th is the Rose Bowl Half Marathon. Come over this way and run it with me…1:40 to 1:50 will be a good pace. It’s a great course and half of it is a trail run thru the Arroyo. Also, March 21st, three days before my 40th, is the 25th LA Marathon…new course from Dodgers Stadium to Santa Monica beach…I’ll be running that as well. We’ll all lose a few pounds on that day!

    My long term solution has been to sign my self up for 2 marathons and 2 half marathons (at a min) for every year. I sign up pretty far in advance and that forces me to show up and most importantly to train…I’ve done one marathon in the past where I didn’t train…and I paid for it…even i can learn. It’s an exercise that is great for travel …all you need are shoes and a GPS (sometimes) watch. It also forces you to cut down on the alcohol and food…it’s very tough running 20 miles the next day when you ate the beef and you’re “hanging.” I’ve also found it to be a great form of meditation and long runs let you get away from everyone and everything…as you can tell, I’m a running fan.

    Anyway, best of luck with your challenge and goals. Give me a call if you want to do the Rose Bowl half…it’s still open.

    Best, Beau

  • Brian

    Health and happiness trumps everything else. There are a few simple rules to follow that will spare you and your family a lot of problems.

    1. Walk, don’t drive. Mothballing my car was the best thing I ever did. I haven’t driven the thing in a year and a half. Walk everywhere, take transit when needed, edited out activities that required driving. If I need to meet someone distant, I use Skype. Get better work/thinking done while walking. If your job requires 2-3 hour daily commute, quit. If you value your health, it’s the best thing you can do. (At least shift to using transit if you can).

    2. Throw your alarm clock out. Quality thinking requires adequate sleep. Sleep until you’re ready to wake up. I only use an alarm clock if I have a very early flight, and I avoid those at all costs. Clearer thinking, better mood, and also healthy (sleep deprivation causes weight gain). If you’re in a workplace that does not respect this, quit, do something else.

    3. Avoid unpleasant people. Financial pressures are bad enough to deal with, but the real killer is toxic people. Take special care to avoid bullies. You don’t want these people around when times are tough (or really even when times are good). They’ll wreck your business and make your life hell. They’re even worse to have as a boss or investor. (I had one, it was the worst period of my life, period).

    4. Have a life. I’ve started four companies (sold three), have been an independent entrepreneur since the early 90s. I work 8-10 hours max, then go meet friends. If you like what you’re doing, you’ll find you work 50-60 hours a week without thinking about it, and that’s more than enough. Don’t feel like working one day? Play hookey.

    5. Define success on your own terms, not being on the cover of Fortune. There are thousands of opportunities, most of which will never be high profile. Better to be successful, financially independent and anonymous than to be playing in some stupid tournament that you’ll almost surely lose to be the next Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, whatever.

    My two cents, you can take it for what it’s worth.

  • Zeeshan

    Nice Post Mark!
    Some lovely and interesting lessons for the beginners. May God bless you and your family.

    Thank you
    zeeshan

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  • http://headquarters.chilltime.com Jorge Vila Boa

    Great post Mark.

    I can really relate to it, I am 27 now and I sold a majority stake of my business at the age of 25 to a media company. Physically it was downhill from there… arrived very early, left very late, no exercise and bad eating habits.

    At the end of last year I bought back the majority stake and went back into the non-corporate garage business style, started working out again and feeling very happy and healthy.

    Joining a gym and going early before work is a really great way to keep motivated and healthy.

    Cheers,
    JVB

  • http://www.20x200.com Jen Bekman

    Great post, Mark. Even if the ONLY thing you’re focused on is success in your career/venture/company, staying healthy has to be part of the plan.

    The stress I had while running a totally boot-strapped business meant that I was too anxious to eat most of the time. Turns out that when you barely eat, you sleep a lot less, so in a twisted way it seemed like it was all working out.

    Growing my scrappy business into a company with three business lines, fund-raising, the subsequent dash to meet (exceed!) investor expectations and lead my team effectively are a different kind of stress entirely.

    I’ve been spending a lot more time at a desk, on airplanes, in conference rooms and at business meals. Staying up late is more of a challenge when sleeping in is never an option. My habit of grabbing snacks whenever I want didn’t disappear once my schedule started to include regular meals, and I often find myself working for 14-16 hrs at a stretch. And yes, I had my first panic attack ever on the flight home *after* signing the term sheet.

    It’s amazing what a difference regular exercise makes in how I feel physically and mentally. I’m more energetic and clearer and every time I do it, I can be rid of the nagging guilt of not taking care of myself for at least a day or so! Exercising is also meditative; the time taken can really inspire big ideas and give me time to unravel complex problems. And yet! What’s endlessly confounding is that it’s so easy to rationalize skipping it when it’s so obvious how crucial it is.

    Running can be done anywhere, so long as you pack your gear, so I’m training for a short race. Trying to at least! If I’m staying in a hotel, I try to book at one that has a fitness room. Surprisingly, it’s been harder for me to stick to a schedule when NOT traveling, but I’m working on it. Also trying to become a person who gets up early rather than one who stays up late.

  • http://sulemanali.com/ Suleman Ali

    Courageous post. Always great to see mythic creatures like VCs being openly human.

  • http://mobileroadie.com Michael Schneider

    Mark – great post. Hit close to home as I have been traveling 2-3 weeks each month the last 4-5 months. I am also a gym nut when I’m in town but it’s very hard to keep it up traveling, especially jet lagged and 18 hour days. Your post is inspiring me to make “run time” a priority.

    Michael

  • http://www.fabianschonholz.com Fabian Schonholz

    Urgency is a bad way of running a business. And urgency does not translate into faster time to market. Now .. hard work and urgency does not translate into each other. And the hurry-up-and-wait that some start-ups take as an operating approach normally result in wasting time, money and lead to the demise of good ideas. I am a veteran of 9 start-ups and I have witnessed the silliness of some of these start-ups.

    Constant execution is the way to go on my opinion and I have been successful as a CTO for the last 10 years with a constant execution approach. It does not burn my personnel and results in more efficient and flexible operating results. Now, it does mean that I do double duty; but the results are worth it.

    I wish my peers on the business side of things would be more into constant and strategic execution in a way that also takes into consideration the opportunities just like I do.

  • http://www.thebizofcoding.com Ujwal Tickoo

    Awesome stuff, especially number 3 on Toxic People and number 5 on choosing to avoid Fortune magazine cover goals – those are passing minutes of fame anyways! Thanks

  • http://armchairfounder.com Julio Vasconcellos

    Mark, as someone in his late 20s that can relate to a lot of things in your post, the things you said hit close to home. Thanks for sharing your story.

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  • David Rothner

    Great post Mark.

    For Android users try Calorie Counter, a super fantastic tool for this as well.

  • http://www.davidhauser.com/MINDdrift/ David Hauser

    Mark,

    What a great post about the entrepreneurial rollercoaster and the effect this can have on your health and life. It is amazing to see how exercise can actually make you much more successful.

    There is a huge number of entrepreneurs that participate in Ironman and Triathlon events and I know a number of them personally. I recently started training, and have to say I love the cycling.

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    Try surfing – it’s what gets me through the day.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    I totally agree with you. Unfortunately I feel like I’ve learned this lesson 3 times already. I’m having a great January – finding a balance but still being productive.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com Mark Suster

    Mark, you’re right. I did have a sign that said “Sleep is the Enemy” and I meant it. But that was nearly 10 years ago. This is an acknowledgment that there is a downside to running at extremes. I hope that came across in my piece. I believe that staying healthy is important and that includes sleep. My priorities were wrong. I acknowledge that. I’m looking forward not backward.

  • Carol S.

    Hi Mark,

    I really enjoyed your article very much. I’m in the same age group as yourself & have experienced a lot of the same yo-yo’s while building my business here in the bay area. Might I also add that sometimes unfortunate serious life situations can also really throw a curve into career focus & health focus. I’ve just come out of that period relating to my family and I tell you, I feel overjoyed running, biking & just taking in the ocean breeze again. It’s my stimulation that reminds me how lucky I am to live and be apart of this beautiful bay area.

    Good luck to you!

    Carol Saldana

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  • http://www.megalv.com Danny

    part of a healthy life is a permanent solution: the yo-yo is almost as bad as not curing the excess…I’ve personally found a potent answer and friend in Coach Tim Powers…ck this: coachpowers.com and discover the joys of anaerobic exercise

    and as you discover my friend Tim…you’ll find that there is a powerful, very cool mash up between a commitment to both your spirit and body…everyone’s cocktail is different so when reading Tim’s book “Fit To Serve” which I highly recommend and have sent to countless friends; filter the strong religious commentary to fit your own personal beliefs: but combine the two and the results will be nothing short of life changing
    best of luck to all: GREAT POST:)

  • http://www.catchthecrowd.com CatchtheCrowd

    Interesting and inspiring……

  • http://www.betterlabs.net Vaibhav Domkundwar

    Mark:

    What a great post!

    I wonder though … with this perspective and experience what would you think is the right recipe for success in this hyper competitive tech startup world? I am in the Valley and every time I get out and travel out to London or India or New York, it feels like there is a self-imposed compulsive need to work harder and longer in the Valley. If you are not working, its as if you are missing / loosing something. And it applies even to my non-entrepreneur friends who are just in a job.

    I have come to believe that product innovation and market timing coupled with a good amount of hard work is enough. An excessive amount of hard work may not change the outcome of a startup. Infact it may hurt it because it is just not possible for anyone to be over worked and thinking right. Can you really be productive working 10 real full hours everyday?

    Would love your potentially newly formed perspective on this.

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    Why wold he be working for someone else, if he has all of that money today, and is the founder of 2 successful companies?

  • geomark

    A story so common how is it worth the space on TechCruch? Or TechCrunch is now a support group for people who can’t manage their lives? What’s next, the TechCrunch Diet, TechCrunch Workout?

  • Mason

    I’m rather amazed at the number of commenters here who seem to think that this story is inspirational, rather than a somewhat sad warning. Having worked for San Francisco startups for 20 years now, I’ve walked away from some because other folks blindly followed the Valley gospel that says you have to work 70 hours/week or you don’t care. The person above who said “work smarter not harder” is absolutely right: the essential work will get done, and done better. I’ve always felt sorry for the spouses and especially the children of the “driven entrepreneurs” I’ve known. Overworking is in fact an addiction just like anything else, and nobody should be surprised that it’s not healthy. Honestly, it’s not worth it, everyone. Ignore the brainwashing: enjoy life, spend time with your friends and family. You only get one chance.

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  • http://www.audiomicro.com Ryan Born

    Thank you so much for sharing this. I support you in your efforts to lose 25 this year and I hope you’ll provide a happy update in December. Cheers to more exercise and healthy eating!

  • http://www.pixza.com Jason

    Here I am sleep deprived, even as I am typing this… I have near-zero exercise in my routine. But atleast I’m in the very early stages of this yo-yo life, I’m only in my early twenties and barely out of college. So I guess I still have time to catch up.

    Thanks to this post, I will pack in some exercise time into my daily activities.

  • Darrel Rodham

    What do you get when you cross YPO with Team in Training and/or Jenny Craig?

    Whatever you call it, I think you’ve got critical mass to start something here…

  • http://www.ajaxo.com Ka-Tye

    Inspirational post. It tells a lot about the dark glory entrepreneurs endure.

  • Tim Schulz

    Oh man, we were just talking about this last week. Sorry to hear about the recent health news, but glad about your resolution for the year. Perhaps a Saturday-morning beach run for LA tech folks is in order?

  • rh

    fantastic post. well done.

  • stan

    I’ve done the work until you drop routine for five years, I’d work very long days for months then years on end, I put on 50lbs, ended up with pre-hyper tension, and serious mental burn out and a strained relationship with my wife. Once we had our first child 2 years ago I knew I had to find more balance in my life, I got back into my favorite sport of cycling and it’s been my savior. I fall to pieces if I don’t get at least a few hours sleep and an hour spin on the bike in the morning. I’ve found for me that exercise is mandatory for me, I can’t do what I do without it esp now that I’m 36, the stress builds too easily, the pounds pack on, my energy level and outlook on life diminish, my productivity and effectiveness as a leader collapse. I wake up now at 6am train for at least an hour every morning, makes sitting at the desk all day bearable. I notice when I feel good and my energy is up I get 20x as much done during that time. I’ve found that you can never get everything done on your list, but if you manage your time wisely you can get the most important things done, thus making you have more money to be able to afford to delegate, and really if you’re doing so many “important” things that you can’t, then you’re not focused, and not being focused I believe is one of the biggest reasons for failure in life and business. Look at youtube, they don’t do a million things they did one thing and they did it well, look at google “all” they do is search.

    Anyway for all you guys killing yourself out there, you need to learn to be better at managing your time and prioritizing and delegating and realizing that your health is not optional.

  • max

    micro management is bad

  • Paris

    great post!!! i only have one question. How can anyone make family if he is so committed to his business

  • http://www.gamechangeventures.com Corey Kossack

    Hi Mark,

    Thanks for sharing. I think many of us entrepreneurs have been through some version of this.

    A few years back (when I was in my early 20′s), I let the stress of growing my first startup and promoting my first book get to me. I was (and still am) perfectly healthy, but the stress I put on myself caused me to get pretty sick for a number of months. After fighting some entrepreneurial fires and coming out on the other side (and doing it all over again), I’ve learned to always keep balance in my life, which includes taking care of my body and also taking time to enjoy the other things in life.

    I think it’s great (especially as a VC) for you to be writing a post like this – and judging from the comments above many others appreciate it as well. Thanks Mark!

  • Thomas

    Is “acid reflux” the new code word for “dot-com dickhead”? Brotha please. You’re having anxiety attacks because you faked it through one bubble that gave you just enough smarts to hit a second time (although if you took venture, it certainly wasn’t a home run) and now you’re sweating at a 3rd (maybe 4th) tier VC firm cuz Salesforce bounced you on your ass. Really? VC in LA? Good luck with that.

  • http://www.smartscalesystems.com Ray Nugent

    It’s the best of times, it’s the worst of times. I have never had this much fun with my clothes on. And I have never been so terrified in my life. The roller coaster is at once exhilarating and demoralizing while I gain new customers and new competitors at a furious rate. My wife wants to know how we’ll make the house payment as I bootstrap Smartscale to life. Good question. You have to believe, you have to push forward, never stop….

  • http://www.globalgraphics.com Gary Fry

    Mark,

    I can fully relate with your constant battle of healthy living with a manic lifestyle. I am the CEO of a public company with offices around the world. On top of that we have created a new strategy to design, build and sell a unique desktop appication for the enterprise market based around multi fomat document creation , gDoc Fusion. I also have children aged 4 and 2 and am 41 years old ! There are clearly many similarities in our lifestyles….

    I have taken up and stopped many fitness regimes over these manic years, but the 2 that have had staying power for me are Squash and Thai Kick Boxing, both have a sudden rush of energy, are time efficient and have a competitive side to them. They are also sports that you can play or train when travelling.

    This was great until I fractured my shoulder whilst skiing with my family over xmas and cannot play squash or fight for another 4 months so need to find another outlet quickly before that airline food gets the better of me….

    Any ideas are welcome…….

  • http://www.globalgraphics.com Gary Fry

    Mark,

    Great post and one that I can fully relate to.

    As a CEO of a public company with offices around the world and in the middle of launching a new product, gDoc Fusion, it is tough to find time to stay fit and be healthy.

    I have tried many fitness regimes over these manic years and until recently Squash was the only one that stayed constant. Until I found Thai Kick Boxing, at 41 perhaps a little late to start, but tremendous fun, releases great mental and physical energy and is over with very quickly!

    This was until recently where I fractured my shoulder skiing with my family over xmas and cannot fight or play squash for another 4 months. Need to find a new release quickly before the airline food gets the better of me. Any ideas welcome……..

  • http://nothingtosay.firstround.com Chris Fralic

    Mark – Posts like this are why you’ve earned your way to the top ten VC blogger list. Let’s go for a run when I’m in Long Beach/LA next week for TED…

  • http://www.goodmail.com Jos Burger

    Mark,

    Thank you very much for sharing with all of us.
    The story of my life. My life is still hectic. What really helps: quit smoking, sleep well, exercise 3 times a week, lower alcohol consumption and (one of the blessings of Europe) travel by high-speed trains. Nothing destroys my appetite more than time lost at airports and in traffic jams.

    Hope to see you on one of my many trips to the Bay Area.

    Good luck!

    Jos

  • http://www.cookingcapsules.com Mary Ann

    Thank you. This was so honest and helpful. I related to how this can happen and it is already making me look (closer) at changes I want to make in my own life in terms of health, energy expenditure and self-preservation. If you set yourself up for burn-out there will be none of you left to go around.

    There are so many external stresses that we need that time devoted to physical and mental health to power us through it. Good stuff. I’m going for a run. Actually, probably better I start with a walk. ;-)

  • http://www.scaleup.it Gihan Behrmann

    Bad eating habits and skipping sports sounds familiar to me. Fortunately my body seems to be resistent against fat deposition; at least it’s not visible. But I often feel exhausted after work, which is a big change compared to my fitness a couple of years ago when I worked more than 24 hours at a stretch without getting tired. After reading this post it returned to my mind that in the basement of our home I’d be able to conveniently access all equipment necessary to recover the lost fitness. A high-performance treadmill (bought two years ago but still almost unused) and a professional ping pong table which I bought to have a sport that my wife and I (she’s also lazy about doing sports) can enjoy together at home during winter months. I’ll re-start today! Thanks for motivating me.

  • http://www.reneetrudeau.com renee trudeau

    Hi Mark, thanks for sharing your journey. I can relate in many ways even though my business models are different. I finally got clear in my late thirities (after a lot of belly button gazing) that my self-worth was way too tied up in “doing” and my last big score. I now focus daily on balancing the ‘being” and “doing” (it’s an ongoing challenge) but something I’m really committed to. You might want to check out http://www.LiveInside-Out.com a movement I started which encourages living more intentionally. We’ve got some interesting conversation happening on our FB community.
    From one entrepreneur to another, hats off for your willingness to be real and pause and course-correct. Take good care–Renee Trudeau

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    I commend you for your honesty and I’m sure many who dont have the urge or self confidence to “confide” with the entire community like this, will find much to empathise with.

    It may, for some, even be a wake up call.

    I stopped going to the gym 3 years ago through a combination for personal stress and work stress.

    There always seems something to do which is more important in that 2 hrs than investing in myself and the gym, even thought I know the short and long term rewards will pay dividends from that two hours twice a week. I must get back to it…

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