WikiLeaks continues to fund itself via tech startup Flattr
by Mike Butcher
on December 8, 2010

WikiLeaks, which publishes anonymous leaks of secret material (most recently 250,000 previously secret US embassy cables) still has a trick up its sleeve. In the last few days its sources of funding have been gradually cut off. MasterCard, PayPal and now Visa have all suspended payments to the organsation and founder Julian Assange has been remanded in custody in London without bail (so far).

However there remains one source of funding so far untouched, and that is a small startup, Flattr, created by Peter Sunde, co-founder of torrent site Pirate Bay, who has been reminding Twitter users today via his personal Twitter account that it’s still possible to “help” Wikileaks.

Now, any site at all can use or incorporate Flattr – a sort of Digg or Facebook ‘Like’, but with money attached. But it is significant that on this day, when other sources are slowly shut off, a tech startup remains a revenue source for Wikileaks. Although there is no Flattr button on the infamous “Cablegate” pages. Nor is Flattr listed as a supporting partner and there is “no official association whatever”, according to Flattr, with Wikileaks.

Here’s how Flattr works:

Users can “Flattr” content by setting up a Flattr account which sets a a monthly fee — a minimum €2 — that they are willing to contribute for any kind of online content. When the user finds something they like that has a Flattr button, they can click the button to “reward” the content provider. At the end of the month, the user’s monthly fee is split equally among the holders of the content that they “flattered”. Although Flattr is currently in beta and an invite is required to set up an account it is already in use by two major German newspapers, completely unprompted: taz.de and Freitag.de.

WikiLeaks has been using Flattr since August, and received well over 3,000 Flattr donations for its Afghanistan War Diary – but the amounts of cash involved remain unknown.

Flattr does not need Paypal to distribute payments – so long as it can verify an account holder’s identity to comply with anti-money laundering and KYC (“know your customer”) requirements, funds can be transferred via bank transfer or cheque. However, Flattr, which also works with newspapers many of them in Germany, is not confirming if it is doing this for WikiLeaks as this is considered client confidentiality.

Wikileaks could well have hit on an unstoppable model via Flattr, which also won the recent Europas award for best new startup in Europe, 2010.

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  • Andrew Brackin

    I wonder how long till you see WikiLeaks Collection pots in London.

  • http://jetlib.com/news/2010/12/07/why-tech-startup-flattr-may-be-the-key-to-wikileaks%e2%80%99-future-funding/ Why Tech Startup Flattr May Be The Key to WikiLeaks’ Future Funding | JetLib News

    [...] Read the rest of this entry » [...]

  • VIBrunazo

    I’ve been using it for about a month and it’s great. All props to them!

    I would Flattr this post. But it’s a shame TC still doesn’t use it. Come one, put a Flattr button on your site already. You guys deserve a tip ;)

  • http://trendoloji.com/?p=502 Neden Tech Başlangıç Flattr WikiLeaks ‘Gelecek Finansman için Anahtar Olabilir

    [...] Read the rest of this entry » [...]

  • Lucian Armasu

    Awesome! This will also help Flattr take off, which means good news for blogs who want new ways to monetize their sites. Maybe you should start using it, too, Techcrunch!

    If only they took it off private beta…

  • ismail

    This is great!

  • POng Peets

    Oh wow, I think that is totally awesome!

    http://www.privacy-resources.edu.tc

  • Will

    and what happens when payment processors refuse to keep processing flattr payments? Surely you have to fund your account somehow and I’m sure the US government will soon find someway to criminalize wikileaks and then flattr will be seen as funding an illegal operation and forced into choosing between cutting off funding to wikileaks or getting shut down.

  • http://thedailyconservative.net/2010/12/08/wikileaks-continues-to-fund-itself-via-tech-startup-flattr/ WikiLeaks continues to fund itself via tech startup Flattr | The Daily Conservative

    [...] the article here: WikiLeaks continues to fund itself via tech startup Flattr Share and [...]

  • Drew

    Doesn’t flattr allow users to fund their flattr account through paypal? Can’t paypal terminate flattr also? just asking..

  • http://www.vishalburns.com Vishal Burns

    As we have already seen that all the big corporates like Amazon, Paypal, Mastercard, OVH and recently even Visa was *FORCED* to terminate their services to WikiLeaks. The reason they provide is breach of the TOS. But even an 8-year old wont find it difficult to determine the main reason behind all these big companies withdrawing support is the US and other European government forcing these companies to withdraw their services.

    Now the big question is – Even if Flattr actually provides services to WikiLeaks, how are they going to overcome the long hands of the lawmakers who are desperate to shut down WikiLeaks. Also need to consider that its just a startup and hasn’t that many attorneys/infrastructure as the other big companies which have already bowed down to the lawmakers.

    Only time will tell what survives.

  • Leif

    Correction: flattr is open to the public. Just sign up. :)

  • http://www.chinafinding.com/small-startup-keeps-cash-flowing-to-wikileaks.html Small Startup Keeps Cash Flowing to WikiLeaks

    [...] Via TechCrunch Europe. [...]

  • Vish

    Shut up

  • bra323

    It is easy solution, shut down Flattr too. It is time for goverment to shut down anything they don’t agree with

  • Danny

    According to the flattr faq, you can only get money out through paypal, so I’m not sure how this is supposed to work unless Sunde does something special for wikileaks :)

  • http://www.tech-bubble.com/2010/12/08/4chan%e2%80%99s-hackers-come-to-the-defense-of-wikileaks-by-attacking-its-enemies/ 4chan’s hackers come to the defense of WikiLeaks by attacking its enemies | Tech-Bubble

    [...] on an application form. But even as it has lost access to revenue sources such as PayPal, the startup Flattr, created by Peter Sunde, co-founder of torrent site Pirate Bay, has been raising mon… for [...]

  • http://www.side-line.com bernard

    tried it, doesn’t work for us despite 15.000 uv’s per day, we collected 2 dollars or so in one month.

  • http://www.side-line.com bernard

    may i add that they don’t seem to have enough users to use it now. actually we hesitated putting it up when we learned that the same day we added it wikileaks had it as well…

  • Jon

    The Swedish sponging and hacking criminals team up again.

  • http://digital.vgb.no/2010/12/08/wikileaks-saken-svekker-troen-pa-risikofri-nettlagring/ Wikileaks-saken svekker troen på risikofri nettlagring | Digital

    [...] Flattr, den nye nettjenesten til Pirate Bay-tiltalte Peter Sunde, er nå en av få nettkanaler som lar folk donere penger til Wikileaks. [...]

  • http://www.reputationmanagementfor.com Sholto

    Slightly off subject, but did anyone find ex-presidential candidate Mike Huckerbee’s comments that Assange should be kidnapped and then executed slightly worrying. On the plus side, even the republican voters recognised him for an absolute cretin, but his clear distaste for the US constitution is not the ideal characteristic for an American president. The editor of the NY Times would have to worried if every publisher is going to be shot.

  • Kwyjibo

    It’s just not popular enough. I’m not sure if the monthly subscription helps either.

    I wish more sites would use it, or something similar though. I read top stories given away for free on The New Yorker, and there’s just no way to contribute aside from buying shit from their ads.

    I’d like to donate $1 for a specific piece, but there are no options. There’s not even a paypal link, probably because they reckon it makes them look too desperate.

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  • http://scandinavianstartups.com/ Alex
  • P C

    Given the mindless, hell bent wreckage that wiki and all it’s enablers are stoking, it is amusing to hear Flattr refusing to acknowledge their partner with wiki b/c of “confidentiality.”

  • Adam

    Actually, I’d say a private company (flattr) protecting it’s users information is in the interests of those users. On the other hand public entities – in this case central governments – withholding information from their ‘users’ – those who have elected them – are acting directly against the interests of those users.

    I’m not saying this is true in all cases. For example though, as a British citizen I’d actually quite like the government that is *supposed* to be accountable to its’ citizens to admit publicly that they fixed documents to cover America’s ass following the invasion of Iraq!

  • http://raovatqn.com/2010/12/08/paypal-decision-to-drop-wikileaks-was-straightforward/ PayPal: Decision to Drop Wikileaks Was “Straightforward” | TECHNOLOGY NEWS

    [...] payment companies than just PayPal, though Wikileaks has found a new avenue for funding – a small startup called Flattr, started by Peter Sunde, the co-founder of the torrent site Pirate Bay. In addition [...]

  • Cathryne

    Is WikiLeaks supposed to withdraw the money from Flattr, when MoneyBookers, PayPal, VISA and MasterCard have cancelled servicing WikiLeaks? I assume there are no other methods for withdrawing funds from Flattr than there are for depositing it.

  • Cathryne

    Is WikiLeaks able to withdraw the money from Flattr at all, when MoneyBookers, PayPal, VISA and MasterCard have cancelled servicing WikiLeaks? I assume there are no other methods for withdrawing funds from Flattr than there are for depositing it.

  • LeeH

    How do I get money in and out of the Flattr system?
    – Currently, Flattr supports most credit cards and direct banking. We’re using Moneybookers and PayPal to achieve this. To get money out of the system, we currently support PayPal only.

    from FAQ: https://flattr.com/support/faq

  • Cathryne

    Exactly! It seems WikiLeaks can take the money out of their Flattr account only if they have a Paypal account that has not come under scrutiny. The one that was closed didn’t actually belong to WikiLeaks, but to the German Wau Holland foundation, who manages donations for WikiLeaks.

  • cosmicsync

    This article contains a huge factual error. WikiLeaks has *not* released all 250,000 diplomatic cables. WikiLeaks made the cables available to partner newspapers like The Guardian & The New York Times, who selected a small sample of cables to publish after being carefully redacted by journalists working for those papers. Almost all of the cables that have been released on the WikiLeaks site were published first by one of these partner papers.

    As I write this, the number of cables that have been released stands at 1060. The author of this article could have found this information by visiting the WikiLeaks website, which plainly states the number of cables released so far on the front page.

    By repeating the lie that WikiLeaks simply “dumped” all 250,000 documents – without making an effort to redact information that has no valid public interest value and could harm innocent people – TechCrunch enables those who want to continue to operate in secrecy to paint Julian and his supporters as “terrorist” who must be stopped at any costs.

    If that is the opinion of this publication, they are entitled to it. But don’t use mis-information to promote that agenda.

  • Jay

    Somebody needs to shut Flattr down now. They are supporting illegality.

  • roy

    it’s fun when it’s not your dirty laundry that wikileaks exposes … :-)

  • http://picture-of-the-day.com Dave Fry

    I only have about 100 uniques daily, and I get more than that each month…

  • Cathryne

    Making sure you have NO dirty laundry yourself that could be expose: that’s fun :-)

  • neto

    They DIDN’T publish 250.000 cables. They published about 1000. People need to start doing their research before writing.

  • http://astmega.ru/novosti/mastercard-ne-vyderzhal-ddos-ataki-storonnikov-wikileaks.html Mastercard не выдержал DDoS-атаки сторонников Wikileaks | Новости из мира hi-tech технологий

    [...] Wikileaks вынужден собирать средства через счета стартапа Flattr, основателем котором является Питер Сунде, известный [...]

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  • steve baxter

    Did anybody read this complete non-article? Assange and Wikileaks have “no official association” with Flattr, ie they’ve never even heard of it. This whole story is a cut-and-paste of an opportunistic press release from a startup trying to attach themselves to the wikileaks bandwagon. Swallowed whole by Mike Butcher and, it would seem, most of the commenters here. Absolute bilge for the gullible.

    Mind you, all credit to Flattr – in inventing the online tip-jar, they’ve come up with easily one of the best startup ideas of 1998.

  • http://www.beautyufa.ru/?p=548 Mastercard.com не выдержал DDoS-атаки читателей Wikileaks « Все об Уфе и не только

    [...] Wikileaks вынужден собирать средства через счета стартапа Flattr, основателем котором является Питер Сунде, известный [...]

  • http://www.punkrockpermaculture.com gaiapunk

    Um,

    There is a connection with Flattr and wikileaks in that they are both free speech proponents and pirate party supporters. Also steve, Flattr won the best European start up of 2010 at the tech crunch Sponsored Europas awards. I’ve made more money on flattr than it’s has cost me to use the service and I don’t even try…..

  • steve baxter

    Pretty tenuous connection. And if that’s the best startup in Europe, then the last entrepreneur leaving can switch the lights off as they leave for the valley. Deadpool within a year.

  • http://www.miketewing.wordpress.com Mike Ewing

    Also, this article is factually inaccurate. Wikileaks has not published “250,000 previously secret US embassy cables” as it states, but rather has made public just over 1,200 cables that were first published by various mainstream media sources, including the New York Times.

  • http://axbom.se/axplock-med-ipad-och-wikileaks-2010-12-11 axplock med ipad och wikileaks 2010-12-11 | axbom

    [...] » WikiLeaks continues to fund itself via tech startup Flattr » #flattr som alternativ till paypal [...]

  • http://www.peergum.com PeerGum

    After a bit of investigation, it looked to me that the account that Flattr presents as WikiLeaks is in fact NOT directly related to WikiLeaks. Its owner is the owner of wikileaks.info which was bought after wikileaks released it in 2009, and they clearly state on the site they have no connection to wikileaks. Moreover, the owner of the wikileaks.info site is hiding behing privacyprotect.org, so I assume this is just an individual stealing the financial “benefits” from Mr. Assange and the real wikileaks organisation… Some get jailed, others gets the money…

  • freedom

    If your bank doesn’t allow you to spend your money where ever you want, it is time to get a new bank.

    Withdraw your money.

  • http://confrontaal.org/wordpress/?p=10396 6 Companies That Haven’t Wussed Out of Working with WikiLeaks | Pointer’s Weekly

    [...] support, they can click on their “flattr” button to donate money to site. According to TechCrunch, WikILeaks has used Flattr since August and received over 3,000 Flattr donations when they released [...]

  • http://www.FranceDatingClub.com/ Laura Lovely

    Great idea, and good luck with the site

  • Stalin 1945, Obama2010

    Case Wikileaks have shown that we need a yet another way to transfer money through internet. Flattr is a nice tool, but it can still be shutdown by K(g)lobal Government Bureau. Is there anonymous & distributed money transfer system (internet cash) out there?

  • http://jetlib.com/news/2010/12/21/wikileaks-continues-to-fund-itself-via-flattr/ WikiLeaks Continues To Fund Itself Via Flattr | JetLib News

    [...] WikiLeaks Continues To Fund Itself Via Flattr December 21st, 2010 12:33 admin Leave a comment Go to comments // Hello there! If you are new here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed for updates on this topic.novenator writes “Since the corporations MasterCard, PayPal, and Visa have been trying to shut down the cash flow to the Wikileaks project, those who wish to donate have been having trouble finding a way to help out. The social media/micropayment site Flattr (run from Sweden) continues to leave the channels open.” [...]

  • http://www.Flattr.com D

    Someone needs to put a “report” button on techcrunch comments so we can report stupid arrogant comments like the one above.

  • Johan Krüger-Haglert

    They said you could do bank transfers and checks.

  • Johan Krüger-Haglert

    There are bitcoins, the problem is how to use them. (You could sell them for dollars though.)

  • Johan KrÃ�¼ger-Haglert

    Seriously, I guess many people wouldn’t care if there’s a shitty spread on bitcoin donations, and if sites like wikileaks started using it maybe it would take of for real?

  • Johan KrÃ��Ã�¼ger-Haglert

    In the end …

    Then can always try to stop cash.

    If you’re not allowed to cash it into the system? Metals? Still the same issue? Fuck getting them into the system?

  • Johan KrÃ���Ã��Ã�¼ger-Haglert

    Yeah, must feel bad that we have the elite..

  • Johan KrÃ���Ã�¯Ã�¿Ã�½Ã���Ã��Ã�¼ger-Haglert

    I wonder if Sunde couldn’t do it in person in some other way. I doubt he has anything against an organisation such as wikileaks ..

  • http://www.techiezine.com/ Drew

    Phew there is no Disqus here. I friggin hate Disqus. Please, please remove it from all Tech Crunch properties.

    Anyhow, on this topic you forgot to mention other sites that are using this button, namely TechDirt.

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  • http://sorebuttcheeks.blogspot.com/ steroids

    flattr is quite a clever idea but i dont trust the pb crew
    DIANABOL

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