Do I hear $50m? The bidding war is on for Tweetdeck’s top-end users
by Mike Butcher
on April 19, 2011

Talk about swings and roundabouts. In this case, Silicon Roundabouts. For Tweetdeck holds a special place in the growing galaxy of London tech startups and the news today that it is still ‘in play‘ as an acquisition target is fascinating.

Last night the WSJ reported that Twitter is offering around $50 million for Tweetdeck. This is after UberMedia had supposedly acquired Tweetdeck for $25-$30 million. UberMedia has $21 million in funding to Twitter’s $360 million. TweetDeck has raised a little over $5 million in funding.

Back in February we reported – pretty confidently – that UberMedia had acquired Tweetdeck for $30m, although no party released any official statement at the time. If true then this would have given Bill Gross’ company, after buying EchoFon, another popular Twitter client, 20% of the userbase of Twitter. Tweetdeck reportedly has 11% of active Twitter users.

But oh what users they are.

Indeed, perhaps that was the reason why there were early signs that this was not a cut and dried deal. One was that the founder, Iain Dodsworth – who I’ve been tracking since I interviewed him for a podcast way back in 2008 – remained utterly tight-lipped about the whole thing.

Another was a suggestion on the rumour-mill that Tweetdeck’s backers, among them PRO Founders and Index Ventures, had done a switcher-rooney style deal to take on shares in UberMedia in exchange for UberMedia bringing Tweetdeck in-house – no doubt for a mix of cash and shares.

After-all, this makes sense. In an advertising market where aggregators tend to hold all the cards (see AOL’s blog acquisition strategy for that one) UberMedia was on its way to controlling a large proportion of the Twitter audience, and thus a valuable ad platform.

Except there was just one problem: Twitter itself.

Despite benefitting from the proliferation of client apps, Twitter has realised in recent times that client apps can exert a lot of market power.

It’s a long time since 2006, when I told Ev Williams in a Paris bar at Le Web that the reason Twitter was working better than Jaiku (long since acquired by Google) was that it allowed 3rd party apps to innovate. On mobile you could only use Jaiku on a Symbian S60 phone or mobile web, and it had no API for third party developers. Twitter had lost that battle but went on to win the war by releasing a simple API for developers.

So now we have a scenario where it looks like Twitter itself is trying to out-bid UberMedia in order re-assert its control over the consumption end of its own firehose. How times have changed.

And what of a future where Twitter controls Tweetdeck?

Actually I see two alternative scenarios. Either they kill the product and bring out their own version (please God no). Or – and this would be much smarter, and to my mind more likely – they do what Tweetdeck and Dodsworth always intended Tweetdeck to do, which is go after the professional market. For this is the natural constituency of Tweetdeck.

To do so would mean Twitter would have a client app for the mass market (Tweetie) and one for the professionals (Tweetdeck).

Just look across the laptops open at any press conference and aside from realising they are 99% Macs, you’ll also notice every journalist using Tweetdeck.

Look across the laptops open at an Social Media confernece: Tweetdeck again.

Even ex-PM Tony Blair is using it.

It’s quite simply the best professional tool out there for dealing with Twitter, with multiple accounts, with pre-set searches, you name it. Tweetdeck’s share of Twitter’s audience is not just any old 11% – it’s the TOP 11% of users.

That is a hugely valuable audience and user-base and Tweetdeck, UberMedia and Twitter know it.

I therefore humbly disagree with the view that Twitter would shut down Tweetdeck. If anything it would simply close Deck.ly, it’s long-form microblogging platform – assuming it could be bothered and even then it might well keep that as an incursion into Tumblr’s space.

Indeed, has everyone forgotten how Seesmic effectively ceded the high-end user base to Tweetdeck, realising that if if could not win the high-end war it would have to pivot into the enterprise and cosy-up to Salesforce?

But whatever happens, it’s highly likely that Twitter has realised that it must wrestle control of Tweetdeck away from UberMedia. The alternative – just cutting off Tweetdeck’s access to Twitter – would be crazy.

Twitter has already shut down and then reinstated three UberMedia apps (Twidroyd, UberCurrent and UberSocial) for violating TOS policies – this was a train-wreck of a move.

And in fact those moves are more damaging to Twitter than simply bringing its users back into the Twitter fold. Especially given Tweetdeck’s valuable user base.

That means a bidding war is effectively on, and one which Tweetdeck’s investors, and Dodsworth, are no doubt quite content to see.

Finally, here’s the killer punch: If Twitter is valued at $8 billion then the top 11% of users would almost certainly be worth more that $50m. While that percentage of $8bn would be too high, the reach, brand and B2B positioning of Tweedeck put it closer to a $100m valuation.

Perhaps that’s why Dodsworth was so relaxed on Sunday?

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  • http://twitter.com/PembridgePosts Pembridge

    So Twitter is valued at upward of $8bn but only values their top 11% at $50m – I think Iain could get a lot more if he plays this right.

  • Anonymous

    Typos… Many of them… But still, nice article. I like those bidding wars, they make tuesdays interesting.

  • http://techchaos.tumblr.com Technonuts

    If ubermedia purchases tweetdeck it would be a sucker punch to twitter

  • http://twitter.com/yanroux Yannick Roux

    “TweetDeck has raised a little over $5 million in funding so a $50m exit would have the magic 10x VCs look for.” > That is not accurate, $5m was not the valuation.

  • http://twitter.com/yanroux Yannick Roux

    “TweetDeck has raised a little over $5 million in funding so a $50m exit would have the magic 10x VCs look for.” > That is not accurate, $5m was not the valuation.

  • http://twitter.com/thibaudj Thibaud Jurquet

    May be time to change that CrunchBase TweetDeck entry, where it still says that it was acquired in February…

  • http://twitter.com/BenClapp Ben Clapp

    disqus is back?

  • http://twitter.com/BenClapp Ben Clapp

    Didn’t realise I was taken to TC Europe.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Disqus is on TechCrunch *Europe* still (I thank you).

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Disqus is on TechCrunch *Europe* still (I thank you).

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=688305120 Matt Barrie

    $5m in funding and $50m exit is not a 10x return.. it depends at what valuation they bought in at. If they bought in at a $45m pre, they will just get their money back.

  • http://mobileways.de/ @janole

    Heh. Why should the 11% be worth most of the money? It’s not the people creating content that are worth the billions (see the Huffington Post … ) – it’s the millions of people reading the tweets and eventually clicking on ads that create an $8bn valuation of Twitter ;-)

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    Twitterific anyone?

  • http://www.twitter.com/aainslie Alexander Ainslie (@AAinslie)

    Given that TweetDeck has the “top 11%” of active Twitter users, TweetDeck seems worth a lot more than the $50M being offered. Especially when market-to-market against Twitter’s current valuation of $10B. Agree?

  • http://twitter.com/Permamax Paul Gill

    You know, I have used both Seesmic and Tweetdeck, You really see the way it works when you start having 3-4 accounts and while tweetdeck is nice, Seesmic desktop app and mobile app are far more better then the TweetDeck.

    Just my 2 cents but seesmic gives you a side-menu and tweetdeck you have to add the columns you have to add and delete but you can scroll, Its a good app, But Seesmic is user friendly if they would get there name out and people would try it.

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  • buyer beware

    Call me old fashioned, shouldn’t Tweetdeck have made a statement last time around if it wants to be regarded as trustworthy, or did it? You say this company is used by journalists? The first line of the PCC code says “the Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information”. It then says “a significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence”.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Tweetdeck has never made an official statement at all so they are in the clear. The view about the Ubermedia deal has always been clearly outlined by media – including us – as a rumour backed by well-placed sources.

  • Anonymous

    Great analysis @Lakey. I have tried all the leading Twitter clients at some point yet it’s never more than a brief flirtation and I always end up back at Tweetdeck. It’s completely different class on a Mac – though I used to find it slow and a little temperamental on PC.

    The biggest weakness IMO remain the Ipad and iphone versions which are simply not in the same league. Therefore I find myself using Tweetdeck on Mac, Echofon on iphone and TwitbirdPro on Ipad which makes true integration of groups / searches / feeds etc impossible. So from a selfish user point of view, my hope is that whatever the source of long-term funding, one outcome will be to raise the user experience bar across multi-platforms – i.e. to where the Tweetdeck for Mac currently is.

  • Anonymous

    Oops – my apologies to Mike Butcher who I now realise was the author of this article (not Chris Lake whose tweet I clicked on!)

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  • buyer beware

    Why do you think your sources told you whatever they did previously?

    “We’ve just learned that his company, now called UberMedia, has just acquired Tweekdeck” Feb 11 2011

  • ipaduser

    I like Twitter deck for Android. Also checkout http://www.newstweet.se a very cool RSS and Twitter mash up for iPad from Sweden!

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    It never left.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Apparently we’re fallible. Frankly it looked like a done deal.

  • http://www.georgehopkin.com/2011/04/19/1532/do-i-hear-50m-the-bidding-war-is-on-for-tweetdeck%e2%80%99s-top-end-users-techcrunch/ Do I hear $50m? The bidding war is on for Tweetdeck’s top-end users [TechCrunch] « GeorgeHopkin.com
  • buyer beware

    Me too, Twee k deck ….

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  • http://twitter.com/avjungle Dean Barrett

    I’ve been a big tweetdeck fan – but find it a real memory hog after a few days – perhaps thats just my dying old PC. I now use Rockmelt which is great for aggregating twitter/facebook/RSS etc.

  • http://twitter.com/VikPanda VikPanda

    What’s up with all the typos today? “That means a bidding was is effectively on”

  • http://profiles.google.com/almwalsh Alex Walsh

    In my dreams Twitter are buying Tweetdeck to move it off of the god awful Adobe Air platform to something that isn’t a crash happy system hog.

    Shame my dreams never come true :(

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  • http://www.playhardsociety.com/ David Wilkinson

    In part, that’s true – but you can argue quite well that without the top content producers (not the spammers, not the friendless no-post individuals, but the real top users), Twitter is worthless. They derive their valuation from the calibre of the individuals using and POSTING to their service. The fact that Bill Gates, rather than Joe Bloggs, may be READING those tweets is irrelevant. It’s the number of Bill Gates, not Joe Bloggs, who are *tweeting* that matters. IMHO.

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  • Chatskiy

    mike, you should make a post about this on TC and we can do a bit of A/B testing :) AFAIK, one can read all the same content on the Europe site

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    twitter can migrate all tweetdeck users to any client they want…these tweeters are in love with their own tweets and nothing kills a bird more than not hearing itself sing…

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