How a Tweetdeck, UberMedia deal could cut down Twitter’s bird
by Mike Butcher
on April 22, 2011

In the world of Internet startups people can become obsessed with the function of a product or app, often ignoring how a company can change the dynamics of a market just through its sheer existence. More often than not, it is not just a case of just having a better technology than the other guy. Equally it can be about a creating an incursion into a competitors’ space which forces them to manoeuvre, destroying value for them, and creating value for yourself. No greater example exists of this today as the dramatic moves being made around the rumoured sale of Tweetdeck.

I have been talking to sources well acquainted with the issue and what they have to say suggests a fascinating drama – which we are about to see played out.

The scenario: Back in February we reported that UberMedia, had acquired Tweetdeck for $30m, although no party released any official statement at the time. If true then this would have given Bill Gross’ company, after buying EchoFon, another popular Twitter client, roughly 20% of the userbase of Twitter. Tweetdeck reportedly has 11% of active Twitter users.

But as any journalist or social media expert will tell you, these are power users, producing many of the most influential content. Indeed Cornell University and Yahoo! Research found that a tiny minority of users – around .05% of the site’s population or 20,000 elite users – are generating around half of all the Tweets. These are divided into celebrities, media, organisations (such as Google) and blogs.

My sources tell me that UberMedia had a 30 day exclusive on that deal. But negotiations took too long and it expired, allowing Twitter to emerge with a $50 million offer for Tweetdeck. The battle was on for Tweetdeck’s high end users.

But there is much, much more to this than meets the eye, and there are earth-shattering implications if Twitter makes the wrong play.

The question is this: what is it worth to Twitter to keep Tweetdeck out of Bill Gross’ hands? For in Tweetdeck lies the balance of power in the Twitter eco-system.

Let’s run through the scenario.

Choices:

UberMedia buys Tweetdeck, thus gaining around 20% of the userbase of Twitter.

With one fell swoop UberMedia has market power relative to Twitter, plus most of the high value users.

As a result, UberMedia has the power to say to Twitter “We have 20-30 percent of Tweets. So, are you feeling lucky? Are ya?”

UberMedia can then say “Unless you let us sell our own advertising, not yours, against those Tweets, we will have to migrate our user base onto a different platform.”

* Boom *

This is the .44 magnum Bill Gross is holding to Twitter’s head.

UberMedia is already selling its own adverts on some of their applications. That is a huge threat. You can imagine that Twitter’s management will wondering how to deal with this threat.

But exactly why is this so likely as a scenario? Let’s work through the numbers.

Twitter’s original business plan said: we will get to sell 100 percent of the ads on the network. But remember, advertising follows an 80/20 rule. In any advertising network, around 80% of the revenue is made from 20% of the audience.

So if UberMedia becomes the owner of Tweetdeck, the most valuable 20% of the audience would not be owned by Twitter.

Thus, sitting in the Twitter’s boardroom, Dick, Ev, Biz and Jack will be saying something along the lines of: “Either Tweetdeck agrees to our deal and we own it, or they do a deal with UberMedia in some way, take a LOT of our users, and we have to cut a deal with them.”

Remember, keep in the back of your mind that research about those 20,000 elite users who tend to use higher end client apps – the apps Bill Gross has been busily acquiring. (All the monitoring is done on other platforms – these are less valuable).

You see, Twitter’s assumption was that no owner of a client app would stand up to them. Most of the client owners were young guys, just product guys, not commercial people. It’s one thing to deal with those guys, another to say to a company backed by Jim Breyer of Accel Partners, “no more client apps”.

What Twitter needs to avoid is a situation where UberMedia says “Guess what? On our client apps WE run the ads, not you.”

So the question is: Do you fight UberMedia with the risk that those high value users are ported to a totally new platform or do you cave in to them and say, “OK, you have us by the balls, we’ll let you sell your own ads.”

Let’s try out the latter scenario.

After losing the most valuable part of the ecosystem, Twitter’s ad revenues will have dropped by 80% to 20% of what they were GOING to be when Twitter owned the entire Twitter network.

In this scenario, UberMedia cuts a deal with Twitter. UberMedia says to Twitter, “we’ll do our own own thing, our own content, but you can run the infrastructure.”

UberMedia might also say to Twitter “Look, we’re nice guys – you can take the Tweets created on our platform and sell your own ads against them.”

Then again UberMedia might even say: “We’ll send the Tweets from our platform, but we’ll take a revenue share on the ads.”

Either way, in this scenario, Twitter’s share of revenues on their OWN PLATFORM has dropped from 100% to between roughly 20-40%.

Since the value of the business is in the cashflow, the challenge for Twitter is if they don’t buy Tweetdeck they will have created a monster that can bargain against them and take a samurai sword to their business model.

We’re not talking about losing 5-10% of the business here – we’re talking about a crushingly large amount of Twitter’s business disappearing. It’s not 11% of the Tweets that matter with Tweetdeck, it’s closer to 50% of the ad revenues in a combined UberMedia business.

If UberMedia ends up buying Tweetdeck, Twitter can eviscerate their business by shutting them off (and thus, a large swathe of their top users). Or they come to a deal, but it would be based on UberMedia’s terms. Under this scenario Twitter actually becomes more like a utility.

Remember, it’s currently valued at $10bn because it’s forecast to get 100% of the ad revenues on its network. For argument’s sake, let’s call it $1bn in annual revenues. But now, with UberMedia controlling TweetDeck and other clients: not so much. Under this outcome, Twitters revenues only reach half their potential – more like $500m.

So is Twitter now worth $10bn or $5bn? Looks like 5, kids.

But wait – back in our other parallel universe, Twitter has won the day and acquired Tweetdeck.

No, UberMedia doesn’t have a strong hand. But that is the ONLY real reason for Twitter to buy Tweetdeck.

In a world where Twitter buys Tweetdeck, then Twitter might still lose a bit of its revenues to Uber but not as much.

Unfortunately this is a beggar’s choice. Buying Tweetedeck does not increase Twitter’s value by much, but it DOES protect it from dropping revenues by 50% (because of the threat represented by Tweetdeck falling into UberMedia’s hands).

So what is Tweetdeck worth to Twitter?

Well for starters, it’s a LOT more than $50m.

It could be as much as $250-500m – because that’s the price Twitter might have to pay to protect 50% of its entire business.

That deal would have to be done in cash and a FUCK LOAD of Twitter stock.

Remember, sitting in TweetDeck’s boardroom are people who realise that the moment they sell to UberMedia, Twitter is fucked.

That is possibly the biggest bargaining chip in the entire startup world as of today.

Iain Dodsworth and his investors will not sit there and say to Twitter, fine, we’ll take 5% of a $5-8bn company – they could ask for 15% of the damn company. Because if you don’t agree, then we’re going to destroy your business by selling to UberMedia.

Meanwhile, back in the negotiations with UberMedia, TweetDeck will be looking at its offer.

This is where things get mighty interesting.

While the offer might be $25-30m from UberMedia (about 25% of its equity) at a $100m valuation, UberMedia might eventually be worth $1bn final exit value if it can sell the lion share of Twitter’s most valuable Tweets. So Tweetdeck’s stake in this would go to $250m, should they choose to go with UberMedia. Hold that $250m figure in your mind.

Now, in the case of Twitter’s offer, this $50m deal being talked about right now is at Twitter’s $10bn valuation.

But assuming Twitter is around for the next 10 years (as have all of the other big Internet giants like Yahoo and Google), what of the next 10 yars?

Imagine Twitter goes from a $10bn to a $20bn valuation. Tweetdeck’s stake goes from $50 to $100m over that period.

So, as a founder and investor in TweetDeck, are you better off talking the $25m deal from Uber to realise a $250m exit, or should you go with the $50m offer from Twitter to realise only $100m?

Exactly.

In fact, even if Twitter offered $200m for TweetDeck, that would go to $400m when Twitter double in value over a 10 year period.

But what if it doesn’t? What if it this picture of UberMedia still stealing a lot of ad revenue means (even without TweetDeck) and Twitter goes from its $10bn to a $8bn valuation?

Now you’re not sitting on $100m, you’re sitting on about $160m and the $250m offer you were getting from UberMedia actually looks a lot sweeter.

The end game is clear: Twitter must, at almost all costs, acquire Tweetdeck. Or they will be royally screwed.

Lucky there’s another royal wedding on to take their mind off things.

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  • http://twitter.com/MarkLittlewood Mark Littlewood

    That is one mighty big scratch you just itched Mike. Glad that I am not the only one working on Good Friday.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    All interesting, Mike.

    Here’s one perspective that wasn’t discussed and it saddens me a little. Tweetdeck can be so much more than a bargaining chip in this game. Why is the company even considering selling to Twitter or selling to Uber? Why isn’t Iain going out to raise a $100M+ round from Index/Accel/Benchmark/Wellington, take $30M off the table for himself, build a kick-ass team and compete with Twitter on his own? All of what you write implies that he could.

    Does Europe not have the guts to put up that kind of capital? Does Iain think that this kind of team can’t be assembled in Europe? This situation is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Take the path less traveled, etc.

  • Ian Morton

    This leaves out the other permutation of Tweetdeck being able to send and receive more than the 140 character limit. if they are bought by Twitter, I can see the limit remaining, but In Uber hands the whole system may need to allow longer messages.

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Actually you’re right. I wanted to look at the deal. But the third scenario is exactly that. Sigh – another post! ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Actually you’re right. I wanted to look at the deal. But the third scenario is exactly that. Sigh – another post! ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    Right, back to the sun! ;-)

  • http://www.timjoslyn.com Tim Joslyn

    Good post and certainly a different perspective on this. Of course a potential curve ball is that if at any point anybody around the table does feel that are some over-valuations are in play here (such as Twitter) due to any kind of, dare I say it bubble, then cash could win over stock (if people are looking for an exit). Therefore the exact terms of any deal could prove decisive.

    Whatever way it plays it sounds like it is going to be one hell of a game of poker…

    Couple of small typos ‘keep in the bakc of you mind’ and ‘company back ed’

  • http://twitter.com/smashing Alx Klive

    I have another idea… why don’t all the TweetDeck users say fuck all this, we’ll stop using TweetDeck unless we can own it :)

  • http://zudfunck.com/ ZuDfunck

    Love it
    Nothing like a great boardroom drama

  • http://about.me/mikerowan Mike Rowan

    I see a lot of good points being made here, but I personally see one point that I think is way off base. When you pointed out the advertizing network and the 80/20 rule “So if Uber becomes the owner of Tweetdeck, the most valuable 20% of the audience would not be owned by Twitter.”. Remember the 20% in this case are the power/influential users which are not likely the same 20% that would consume the ad content. This is an important distinction.

  • http://twitter.com/joshr Josh Russell

    two things that mix this up.

    interop.

    data-portability.

    uber/tweetdeck/twitter should build great interfaces on top of open protocols. e.g. like google did with gmail to email.

    then they get to compete on service level, trust of identity management, feature support, api, etc.. and also get to follow any business model they like.

    what twitter gives the world should not be split between two places. the very fact that all our focus is on a stream of tweets from a single set of ‘users’ is twitter’s strength, and what makes the ‘concept’ awesome.

  • http://twitter.com/Ian_Wilson_ Ian Wilson

    Mike, if I am correct your logic revolves around those 20% of elite users also being the most avid “ad clickers”? This seems counter intuitive. Surely it would be those elite users followers who are more likely to be ad clickers? Those users who are most likely to be on twitter “own brand” clients?
    In this case Uber Media would have a highly influential, high bandwidth but low revenue user base potentially.

    There is also the ease of switching clients, I used to use Tweetdeck, then switched to the “new” twitter client and have now started using Tweetdeck again this week (mainly thanks to these posts and their chrome client) but could easily switch again when the next new and shiny thing appears. Tweetdecks multi platform integration is compelling but not a strong switching cost, for me at least.

  • http://www.YouMeUs.in linusr

    Change the twitter ToS to make Tweetdeck useless.. most likely path Twitter might take.

    btw article looks like an over selling for tweetdeck

  • Jason_newport

    NO, they don’t need to buy Tweetdeck. Its easier for Twitter to create an exact replica of Tweetdeck, our team can do it in 30 days (Tweetdeck is a simple Adobe AIR application). Then after Twitter creates its Tweetdeck replica it shuts off the hose to Tweetdeck. Now those 20% of users can wait for Tweetdeck/Uber to build a new Twitter or hook up to some other service and hope and pray that all those power users can get there followers to move over as well. Good luck on that Uber.

    Good try TC on trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

  • http://twitter.com/JCred Justin

    I am a longtime Tweetdeck user, but I think this argument is flawed in premise. There is no demand for a Twitter competitor. Twitter.com leaves much to be desired, but the API is a hit and “@Username” is an institution. Lost in all of the speculation of Twitter Inc, is the reality that the infrastructure is no longer instable. The product is as good as its ever been.

    If I were forced to choose between Twitter or Tweetdeck, I’d miss Tweetdeck. I’m curious if there are many who disagree.

  • http://twitter.com/JCred Justin

    I am a longtime Tweetdeck user, but I think this argument is flawed in premise. There is no demand for a Twitter competitor. Twitter.com leaves much to be desired, but the API is a hit and “@Username” is an institution. Lost in all of the speculation of Twitter Inc, is the reality that the infrastructure is no longer instable. The product is as good as its ever been.

    If I were forced to choose between Twitter or Tweetdeck, I’d miss Tweetdeck. I’m curious if there are many who disagree.

  • http://www.3scalesolutions.net stevenwillmott

    A lot of good points made – but I think twitter actually has many more “soft” leavers that suggested here – they could let the acquisition go ahead (to Ubermedia) and impose pretty much any terms they wanted on Uber to have access to the twitter stream – banning the client is their biggest weapon and would seem draconian but they can easily enforce a rev share on advertising.

    About uber migrating the audience – seems highly unlikely – what will they migrate to? Facebook? Google? In each case those companies are likely to impose similar monetisation rules as twitter might. Uber could try to build it’s own network but in the meantime they will continually be growing twitter’s critical mass – can’t see that happening.

    Lastly, it’s often said tweetdeck holds the 0.5% most valuable users – but this is based on the amount of tweets they produce and advertising revenues (at least) are based on who *reads* not who *writes*. I.e. there’s no reason to suppose that those 0.5% are the most valuable to advertise too. It could even be that they are amongst the least valuable. For a power twitter user (on tweetdeck), tweetdecks value is 90% derived from twitter – you can reach followers, read the stream of the people you follow etc.

    Personally I think it’s a shame that Twitter is attempting to control the “vertical” ecosystem and destabilizing those that build clients – they *own the network* – if they keep growing that horizontal power, no vertical will likely displace them. In fact, the more clients there are the better for twitter in the long run.

  • http://www.3scalesolutions.net stevenwillmott

    A lot of good points made – but I think twitter actually has many more “soft” leavers that suggested here – they could let the acquisition go ahead (to Ubermedia) and impose pretty much any terms they wanted on Uber to have access to the twitter stream – banning the client is their biggest weapon and would seem draconian but they can easily enforce a rev share on advertising.

    About uber migrating the audience – seems highly unlikely – what will they migrate to? Facebook? Google? In each case those companies are likely to impose similar monetisation rules as twitter might. Uber could try to build it’s own network but in the meantime they will continually be growing twitter’s critical mass – can’t see that happening.

    Lastly, it’s often said tweetdeck holds the 0.5% most valuable users – but this is based on the amount of tweets they produce and advertising revenues (at least) are based on who *reads* not who *writes*. I.e. there’s no reason to suppose that those 0.5% are the most valuable to advertise too. It could even be that they are amongst the least valuable. For a power twitter user (on tweetdeck), tweetdecks value is 90% derived from twitter – you can reach followers, read the stream of the people you follow etc.

    Personally I think it’s a shame that Twitter is attempting to control the “vertical” ecosystem and destabilizing those that build clients – they *own the network* – if they keep growing that horizontal power, no vertical will likely displace them. In fact, the more clients there are the better for twitter in the long run.

  • http://twitter.com/PlanetLandsman David I. Landsman

    While Tweetdeck drives the most interesting content according to Mike, there is no herd of viewers there, so the content falls in a vacuum without the Twitter audience. It is a substantially uphill battle at that point. In this case the safer play is also the more strategically sound play.

  • http://twitter.com/PlanetLandsman David I. Landsman

    While Tweetdeck drives the most interesting content according to Mike, there is no herd of viewers there, so the content falls in a vacuum without the Twitter audience. It is a substantially uphill battle at that point. In this case the safer play is also the more strategically sound play.

  • http://twitter.com/JCred Justin

    Because TweetDeck supports multiple-platforms that are overwhelmingly ignored in favor of more Twitter columns (How often do you see TweetDeck Updates to your Facebook feed?). TweetDeck is really good at Twitter and that is the basis of its value.

  • http://twitter.com/PlanetLandsman David I. Landsman

    I agree 100%. I love Tweetdeck, but if I couldn’t use it to access Twitter, I would use something else. I think there is really a lot of wild speculation in this piece, not the least of which is the premise that the Twitter power-users won’t punt Tweetdeck the second it isn’t broadcasting the wider audience.

  • http://mvalente.eu/ Mario Valente

    Twitter’s Kills Can Become Twitter’s Killers
    http://mvalente.eu/2010/05/14/twitters-kills-can-become-twitter-killers/

  • http://holloway.me Josh Holloway

    Mike, I would challenge your assumption that “the most influential users” are all using TweetDeck.

    Out of the top 10 users on Twitter currently, only one is using TweetDeck at all. The other nine had zero use of Tweetdeck within their first two pages or so of tweets. And instead of Tweetdeck, they’re mostly using the web and official Twitter apps.

    I honestly don’t think anyone really “likes” Tweetdeck besides self-professed “social media gurus” who feel like they’re accomplishing something by having 10 columns up on their screen at once. Normal people don’t use Twitter that way.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    Twitter realizes it’s a protocol masquerading as a business. Twitter won’t support OStatus (or XMPP). Not as long as they believe they have critical mass. So we may need to have a period of time where things don’t interop. Where your Compuserve email can’t leave its servers. Because that is how standards win.

  • http://nerdnewsandreviews.com Wade

    The 80/20 rule here doesn’t mean that those power users are clicking 80% of the ads, it means that they are generating most of the content, which gives Twitter more content to sell ads against.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    I am implying that Tweetdeck should build a separate Twitter. Do so in a smart way while continuing to support Twitter itself. Deck.ly is a start. Give users an option to put content elsewhere. Then turn it on by default. Host it yourself.

    How is it strategically more sound if from an entrepreneur’s perspective he could get the same pay-off right now by doing a secondary with a large venture firm and then swing for the fences? Stupid European risk aversion. Go for gold!

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    This is like saying all email should be Gmail.

  • http://twitter.com/rodgersn Nathan Rodgers

    Great piece Mike and thanks for taking the time to clear it up – more than just a PR stunt then ;-) .

    I suppose there is always a risk that Twitter could turn around and shutdown/restrict it’s API. Leaving many of the non-native clients dead in the water. Following on from the discussion thread, if Tweetdeck went out on it’s own, does it really have the dedicated following / user base it would need to migrate off the Twitter platform? After all, it’s about the total membership of the platform (both publishers and followers) that makes it work, and personally I don’t think a UI has that sort of pulling power.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    I think the point is slightly more complicated. Would Twitter turn Tweetdeck off if Tweetdeck supported an additional Twitter-like network, like it already does (kinda) with Deck.ly? Or is the content coming through Tweetdeck too important to Twitter to risk it?

  • http://nerdnewsandreviews.com Wade

    Mike, there is one hole in your argument that is apparent to me. In the first scenario where Twitter does not buy TweetDeck, you say that they have to deal with uber or they can take 20% of their users to another platform. I don’t see this happening. Those power users are using tools like TweetDeck because it is the best tool around (in their opinion) for interacting with the Twitter platform in an advanced way. If Uber takes them to another platform, I think almost all of them stop using it. They want Twitter interaction, and TweetDeck is a means to an end.

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  • Anonymous

    I agree with Landsman…

  • Anonymous

    Interesting stuff.

    Even if tweetdeck/ubermedia join up though and take their prolific users and split off to a different system they aren’t going to have the reach that twitter does.

    Look at the type of users in question: “celebrities, media, organisations (such as Google) and blogs” these users are valuable in that they provide inventory to advertise alongside and intrest in them drives impressions but they aren’t the users generating those impressions by checking their feeds, and they wont be the users clicking on those ads. For that you need look to the people that follow these accounts, the more casual twitter users i.e. the people that don’t use Tweetdeck.

    Then think about what those power users want. If their aim in having a twitter account is to communicate with as large an audience as possible – as it surely is – would they prefer to be on a network with 40,000,000 users (assuming Twuberdeck could migrate ALL 20% over to their own, proprietary, system) and a better interface, or one whose interface they don’t like as much but with 160,000,000 consumers? These power users want to be interacting with the masses, not exclusively with one another.

    If they do split into rival organisations I can see the power users simply forming accounts on both platforms. Then it would be down to Twuberdeck to introduce features that make it a better consumer experience if they hope to lure the mass audience – who don’t use/care about tweetdeck – and really damage Twitter.

    For what it’s worth I think Max is right. Tweetdeck seems like it’s in an exciting position and should be able to become something more than just a target of Twitter/Ubermedia acquisition. Swing for the fences I say!

  • http://Androidized.com Lucian Armasu

    Tweetdeck and all the other Twitter clients should just leave Twitter behind and support a decentralized open source service like status.net, and migrate all their users to it.

  • http://twitter.com/MarketMeSuite MarketMeSuite

    It’s a very interesting scenario. Good on Tweetdeck for getting themselves in such a power position. Here’s a question though – if Twitter buys Tweetdeck, do they keep the users using the platform as is (ie: posting to facebook, linkedin, etc) or do they make it a Twitter only client?

  • http://twitter.com/jkaljundi jkaljundi

    Parallel posting of all tweets to a service like that would be a smart move by Tweetdeck et al.

  • http://twitter.com/fabiodebe Fabio De Bernardi

    Mike, I like the reasoning behind picking the smaller offer in perspective of it becoming bigger when you consider equity. But there are a lot of assumptions to make that work.
    However, I’m not sure I get what you mean with “migrate user base onto a different platform”. Do you mean leaving Twitter and create a parallel service? No thanks, it’s not going to work IMO. I’m with those here who said that they’s stick to Twitter, not Tweetdeck. Hence, I don’t believe UberMedia would be in such dominant position towards Twitter’s decisions with regard to advertising.

  • http://profiles.google.com/russell.william.harrower Russell Harrower

    Or you know Twitter could just say TweetDeck cant use our API no more.
    BOOM there go Tweetdeck.
    AND the WINNER is Twitter
    minus the PR that Twitter would unroll.

  • http://twitter.com/jkaljundi jkaljundi

    Agreed. In times when Flipboard/Color raise 40-50m rounds and the market conditions are like they are, it would be smart for Tweetdeck to do the same. So much potential there in not what they have now, but what they could build on top of it.

  • http://mvalente.eu/ Mario Valente

    See my comment below.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=681855896 Jim Woolley

    Good article, but seriously, why does TC always have to resort to the F-BOMB and other crude language in so many posts? It just shows a complete lack of class and education by the writer. The word is offensive and there are alternatives.

  • Mia

    Waaaaa!

  • Ajbopp+techcrunch

    No, it’s like saying Gmail has 80% of the market so it should create a new service that isn’t isn’t really email and people will keep using Gmail because they do now, even though it’s not compatible with existing email. It’s a precept I find to be fundamentally flawed.

  • http://twitter.com/PlanetLandsman David I. Landsman

    I understand what you are implying and while it would be a bold move it is also a futile one. Social herds form on their own. In my opinion, you can’t force one and you certainly can’t duplicate one. Don’t believe me, ask Google… Wave, Buzz. So while the leadership at Tweetdeck could take some money off the table and spend the next 3 years ice skaitng uphill, why pour tons of money and energy into something that has an unlikely success probability. Not to mention I think Mike wildly over estimates the Tweetdeck power position.

  • http://twitter.com/jkaljundi jkaljundi

    Unfair comparison, as e-mail & smtp are open distributed protocols, while twitter is proprietary system controlled by just them.

  • Rajesh Razdan

    While 80/20 rule might be true, the active 20% tweet publishers still need 80% to read their tweets. and those 80% will remain on twitter.

  • http://twitter.com/tarullo Mike Tarullo

    I find it really distracting when articles have lots of grammar mistakes. Interesting or not, it breaks up the flow of the piece.

  • http://twitter.com/sizzlers123 Hina

    I comprehend it rattling distracting when articles bonk lots of grammar mistakes. Intriguing or not, it breaks up the flux of the fabric

  • Ajbopp

    No it’s not really an unfair comparison. The question is will people leave a service they use to continue using a particular client that no longer supports what that service. I doubt it. I think Twitter is much more in command of the situation than the article assumes.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    Twitter is a protocol. It’s just that no one is yet credibly competing with them based on that assumption.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    Twitter is a protocol. It’s just that no one is yet credibly competing with them based on that assumption.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    I think you may be right on the power Tweetdeck has. That said – social herds do form on their own. You list Wave and Buzz, but I list Friendster, MySpace and RSS. What is the lock-in, really? I think Twitter is a protocol. Will it remain a proprietary one? TBD.

  • http://twitter.com/iLikeGirlsDaily Lisa

    UberMedia can then say “Unless you let us sell our own advertising, not yours, against those Tweets, we will have to migrate our user base onto a different platform.”

    Waaaay, way, way off-base here. Nobody is going to jump to another platform. That was really a stupid thing to write.

  • Guest22

    This seems the obvious approach that Twitter will take. Why part with hard cash today (when they don’t have a clue about building real revenue). Keep the cash. Turn off the firehose. Release a Tweetdeck’ish clone under the official imprimatur (would take what? a week to build?).

    Ultimately, Twitter has the power here. Even if they forced a bunch of us to delete Tweetdeck and set up our accounts on an official platform, 98% of us would do so. Twitter has proven time and again they will sacrifice friendships and relationships within their eco-system. They’ll do it again.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/BrianGupton3 Brian Gupton

    Mike – Your analysis here seems flawed. While TweetDeck might certainly have a high percentage of power users/content creators, the overwhelming majority of the content consumers are not using TweetDeck. If Twitter shut off access to the TweetDeck client, do you seriously think that the Twitterati would continue publishing to an audience that is a fraction of what is available at Twitter? The masses of content consumers are not going to leave Twitter for TweetDeck/UberMedia, especially since they do not have the infrastructure in place to handle such a large community.

    If Twitter shuts down TweetDeck and/or UberMedia’s access, they will have a serious PR issue on their hands, but that would blow over albeit with some longterm vocal whining by influential people. That’s the only reason that Twitter will buy TweetDeck. If Twitter weren’t so flush with capital right now, they wouldn’t even be considering this acquisition. $50 million to avoid a PR problem might make sense, but believing that TweetDeck holds as much power as you imply is a fairy tale.

  • http://twitter.com/iLikeGirlsDaily Lisa

    EXACTLY.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this makes a whole lot of sense dude.

    http://www.complete-privacy.au.tc

  • http://twitter.com/steely_glint Tim Panton

    Yeah, lets think about that 20% of active tweeters, what they want is a bigger audience, not a smaller echo chamber.
    I’m a twitter client slut, I use twitter on the ipad, tweetdeck on the iphone and (um, checks the name) tweetie on the mac.
    I could drop one in an instant and really not care.
    So the question is:
    How loyal are tweetdeck’s users to the client rather than the platform?

  • http://twitter.com/mutlu82 Murat Mutlu

    Really interesting article, never really saw Tweetdeck as a potential threat to the entire Twitter business.

    My first thought like many others in the comments is that Twitter would eventually change their Terms of Service to include restrictions around advertising, a bit like how mobile networks strong arm handset manufacturers – i.e Google gives a cut of ad revenue to networks or bloatware etc.

    Or Twitter could launch its own version with features only available to its client and not in the API. I like Tweetdeck but I’ve not loyalty to free desktop Twitter clients, whoever has the best design really and Tweetdeck isn’t perfect. I reckon Tapbots could do a great job of bringing something out that would be a potential treat to Tweetdeck.

  • http://twitter.com/mutlu82 Murat Mutlu

    Really interesting article, never really saw Tweetdeck as a potential threat to the entire Twitter business.

    My first thought like many others in the comments is that Twitter would eventually change their Terms of Service to include restrictions around advertising, a bit like how mobile networks strong arm handset manufacturers – i.e Google gives a cut of ad revenue to networks or bloatware etc.

    Or Twitter could launch its own version with features only available to its client and not in the API. I like Tweetdeck but I’ve not loyalty to free desktop Twitter clients, whoever has the best design really and Tweetdeck isn’t perfect. I reckon Tapbots could do a great job of bringing something out that would be a potential treat to Tweetdeck.

  • bwernt

    I don’t understand how this makes any sense at all. If Tweetdeck is bought, starts showing me ads AND has a threat of some twitter api change screwing the whole thing – Why am I still using Tweetdeck? Because I won’t be. I’ll have long since moved on to a different client.

    Think of this in terms of the browser wars, not a power struggle for the protocol itself. JFC.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.fortson Michael Fortson

    It’s not a one-sided arrangement, as this article suggests. TweetDeck’s primary value (for its users) comes from reaching Twitter followers, period. Take that away and there’s nothing that’s going to rise above the typical Twitter-competitor noise; the value is gone. Suggesting anything else is just creating a pie in the sky dream for client owners.

  • Anon

    Poor taste in photograph. Dead bird art with X eyes is fine, but that one’s a bit disturbing.

  • http://about.me/rocco Rocco Tarasi

    That was one of the best articles on the considerations and motivations of competing acquisition offers that I’ve ever read.

  • Anonymous

    TweetDeck needs Twitter more than the other way around. Twitter holds the keys to the castle. TweetDeck needs Twitter for 100% of it’s user base. Twitter needs TweetDeck “indirectly” for 20% of their user base, and 0% directly.

    Worst case Twitter could just say no and ban TweetDeck, wouldn’t bother me cos TweetDeck is a pretty sucky client, especially on the phone.

  • http://twitter.com/Ian_Wilson_ Ian Wilson

    That makes sense, but it is not how the article is written:

    ” In any advertising network, around 80% of the revenue is made from 20% of the audience. So if UberMedia becomes the owner of Tweetdeck, the most valuable 20% of the audience would not be owned by Twitter.”

    So the “valuable” 20% equates to revenue, in the article, not content production. Of course the semantics could get very twisted but I think anyone reading the article would assume TC meant Twitter was likely to loose power ad clickers, which is unlikely.

  • http://borasky-research.net/2011/01/13/project-kipling-alpha-test-is-now-in-suse-studio-ddj-datajourno/ znmeb

    There’s two kinds of “Twitter” users – consumers and publishers. As a publisher, I think TweetDeck is a steaming heap of crap. Their (Chrome only!) web app is unresponsive and has an ugly and clumsy visual interface. Their desktop is built on Adobe’s bloated kludge platform, AIR. And their Android app is pure junk. I don’t have an iOS device so I can’t comment about that, but Twitter’s own client works just fine on iOS now and gets better every day.

    The only thing TweetDeck has going for it over Twitter’s own clients for publishers is that it interfaces to more services than Twitter. For all practical purposes though, a publisher needs to interface with Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. The only problem with that for TweetDeck is that both HootSuite and Seesmic do that too, and better than TweetDeck!

    This looks more to me like TweetDeck trying to start a bidding war for itself than UberMedia “holding a gun to Twitter’s head.” Or maybe it’s simply a blogger trying to tell people with vastly more business savvy than he has how to manage themselves and how to negotiate deals. ;-) In any event, there’s no win-win here, no “synergy”. TweetDeck sells to UberMedia and Twitter shuts off their API access and maybe even takes UberMedia to court for trademark violations. TweetDeck sells to Twitter and suddenly it no longer talks to Facebook, LinkedIn or any other service. Users abandon it for the vastly superior native Twitter clients or for HootSuite or Seesmic.

  • http://twitter.com/novaspivack Nova Spivack

    How are you getting to these estimated revenue numbers for Twitter? Are you saying Twitter could earn $1b in revenues from ads today? I really doubt that. I ran the numbers and they don’t show anything close to that. Can you share your math with us?

  • http://evanjacobs.net/ Evan Jacobs

    UberMedia and Tweetdeck have no power. Twitter can easily block their API access and probably will if they start abusing their userbases.

  • http://twitter.com/novaspivack Nova Spivack

    This article estimates Twitter revs at a much lower figure as well: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/01/twitter-revenues/

  • Ciaran Norris

    What. Are. You. Smoking? People would bitch about Tweetdeck being cut off, but would soon get over it.

  • http://twitter.com/zamNN zamN

    I’m sorry but I had to stop reading this midway through. This just doesn’t make any sense. I think it would be pretty stupid for UberMedia to try and stand up to Twitter. Twitter is the one who is giving them their users. Without Twitter, UberMedia is nothing.

    You can’t just make people use another platform because you can’t make an agreement with the company you’re getting users from. It doesn’t work that way. People will use Twitter regardless of what client supports it. That is where the majority is at.

    The comparison you’re making is almost like saying Seesmic has 10% of Facebook users and if Facebook doesn’t strike a deal with them then Seesmic will migrate their users to a new platform. Any Seesmic facebook user wouldn’t follow onto that new platform and would stop using Seesmic all together.

  • johnb

    Certainly not. E-mail is a completely open protocol, and before Gmail there were hundreds of clients — shell, desktop and web-based clients. Twitter is a unique animal, 100% owned and controlled by a single entity, with a developer ecosystem interfacing with it via an API. Even taking similar protocols like StatusNet into account, there is just no comparison with e-mail.

    The real question is will those Twitter power users using Tweetdeck automatically migrate to a new platform just because UberMedia says so? That’s a huge leap!

  • johnb

    Exactly right, Wade. I don’t understand how or why the author arrived at his idea that TweetDeck users are using the app because of the app, rather than the underlying service (Twitter). Classic case of putting the cart before the horse.

  • http://twitter.com/Mister_Helper Mr. Helper

    Agreed. It’s like a popular radio program, where a tiny percent of people call in to the show. The vast majority consume. That’s what makes writing posts valuable for the small percent who do write.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=222400926 Daan Loening

    “After losing the most valuable part of the ecosystem, Twitter’s ad revenues will have dropped by 80% to 20% of what they were GOING to be when Twitter owned the entire Twitter network.”
    That argument is BS. Don’t mix up power tweeters and power readers. The advertisement value lies almost entirely with the readers, not with the tweeters and they are not as heavily accumulated.

    Also you assume that the eco-system (uber / tweet deck) and twitter aren’t heavily enough intertwined. By the same logic that uber media could switch twitter users to a different system (which in fact it can’t), twitter could choose to cut-off support of uber media tools (which it can, although it would hurt twitter a lot). If twitter did that then uber media market value would be USD 0 within 1 day. So by the same logic tweetdeck would be much smarter to make a deal with twitter, because it offers a much higher investment protection.

    I still really liked your post. Thumbs up!

  • http://twitter.com/SocialJulio Julio Fernandez

    Good article and great points on the comments. I’m leaning towards Twitter will not care about Tweetdeck as they have ways around it. If Twitter creates X and I see a way it will help my clients, I’ll make a recommendation to my clients to try X. If UberMedia wants my client to try Y, I’ll test it and if it helps my client, I’ll recommend Y. @SocialJulio

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    You don’t think there were tens of distinct messaging systems for users of the same system before email became interoperable? Twitter is not a unique animal. It’s just opt-in/subscription communications in a different guise.

  • http://twitter.com/maxniederhofer maxniederhofer

    Following that logic, Tweetdeck needs to own the OS :) jk

    I think your analogy is a good one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/M.J.Minhas Jamshed Minhas

    I don’t understand how this makes any sense at all. If Tweetdeck is bought, starts showing me ads AND has a threat of some twitter api change screwing the whole thing!!
    http://www.minhasweb.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=570334601 Craig McDonald

    Twitter is absolutely a protocol. I was amazed that it was able to position itself as something else, but analysis like that contained in this post (whether or not seasoned with some journalistic licence) do reinforce this for me. Microposting (aka tweeting, call it what you want) has been stuck in this weird AOL-you’ve-got-mail stage for a while, but it surely cannot last forever.

  • Aktionitems

    I think this is overrated! Bill Gross cannot just tell twitter that if they don’t allow Ubermedia to sell their ads they’ll take their users to another platform. That BS! Users use tweetdeck because it makes their twitter communication easy, the key word here being “twitter”. If Ubermedia says what you are suggesting Ubermedia could say….users will leave Tweetdeck & not Twittter. Ubermedia may have 20% of the top users but 100% of their audience is on twitter. Period! *No Boom*

  • http://twitter.com/Umagram Umagram

    This is a fascinating discussion. 2 questions remain, though:
    1. Are the 20% who create content trying to talk to each other or are they trying to reach the 80%? Seems like fragmenting the market isn’t just risky for Twitter, it is risky for any service or company that tries to turn the power users into its own community.
    2. The advertising 80/20 rule doesn’t always work in the direction mentioned here. It seems, in fact, that the 20% “valuable users” are the power users because they drive the popularity, create good content and spread the site to new people, but the monetizable users are the people who click ads and buy stuff from advertisers — not always (maybe not often) the power content creators.

  • http://www.facebook.com/djtek DJ Tek

    WOW!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/karim.guessous Karim Guessous

    Another alternative is for Twitter to let Uber bleed themselves to death by buying an inflated Tweetdeck, then shut’em out of the platform, and go on to buy Hootsuite… in which case Uber’s properties will have to experience an exodus to Hootsuite, with no more ammunitions for Uber to use!

  • http://www.facebook.com/djtek DJ Tek

    That was intense. Uber really has a huge power play in their hands.

  • http://www.facebook.com/djtek DJ Tek

    That is IF… IF people adapt to the new application.

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  • http://twitter.com/jdrch Judah Richardson

    I’m guessing TweetDeck’s support for multiple social networks would decline if it were acquired by Twitter, so I’m actually gonna root for UberMedia in this case.

    Twitter itself will eventually become a textbook case of how NOT to run a startup – they got themselves into this position by remaining static and leaving the innovation to 3rd party developers. By the time they realized their mistake, it was far too late.

    Facebook’s been a lot smarter by continuing to innovate and evolve at such a speed that the best Facebook client is the site itself.

  • http://twitter.com/novaspivack Nova Spivack

    I’ve run the numbers and I think there is a way to make this entire argument a moot point. See this article: “Why Twitter Should Adopt a Freemium API Model Immediately” http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/why-twitter-should-adopt-a-freemium-api-model-immediately

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dean-Collins/674616722 Dean Collins

    Exactly, i dont think jason gets the value is the users not the application.
    http://www.LiveFanChat.com

  • http://twitter.com/MarketMeSuite MarketMeSuite

    I find the dead bird distracting – I had to quickly read it so i could get it below the fold. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Trojanman420 Kevin Moore

    The value is in the Twitter network. Tweetdeck, Uber, can be killed quickly by a good Twitter replica. Didn’t Twitter just hire 30 developers in ONE DAY this month? Tweetdeck is a nice client, but easily copied. Uber is even more easily substituted.

    Users have little to no loyalty to the clients. The loyalty and utility lies with the Twitter network stream. This premise is quite faulty.

  • http://twitter.com/Trojanman420 Kevin Moore

    The value is in the Twitter network. Tweetdeck, Uber, can be killed quickly by a good Twitter replica. Didn’t Twitter just hire 30 developers in ONE DAY this month? Tweetdeck is a nice client, but easily copied. Uber is even more easily substituted.

    Users have little to no loyalty to the clients. The loyalty and utility lies with the Twitter network stream. This premise is quite faulty.

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  • aeiouy

    The problem is Gross and the rest don’t have the means to migrate those new users to a new platform. If they just said tweetdeck and ecofon now only work with Twirple, most of the power users with twitter would simply find a different application to use.

    Thinking that these power users have a bigger loyality to the application they use to access twitter than they do to twitter itself would be a misjudgment of monumental proportions.

    People are not going to switch from twitter just because tweetdeck or any other app tells them to do so. They are much more likely to change apps than platforms.

    It is a game of chicken that Twitter wins 99% of the time.

  • aeiouy

    In fact the 20% of power tweeters compromise only a very tiny percentage of the people who are most likely to click on the ads.

    The power users are much less likely to click on ads. I just think the concept that Tweetdeck or anyone else has any real leverage here is off-base.

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  • Anonymous

    Is a “grammar mistake” anything like a grammatical mistake? Get one egg, apply vigourously to face. ;-)
    I thought it was well written and really made one think. Well done author.

  • http://www.techfruit.com Tim [techfruit]

    An interesting article but there are a few things I have to question:

    1 – The 80-20 stat for revenue. I’m not sure how accurate that stat is for online advertising in general, but on any revenue model except CPM on websites, the “top” and most influential/engaged/knowledgeable 20% of people do not create the most in advertising revenue – they are the ones that are most blind to ads, and may well make much less even though in theory they are more valuable due to demographic. Directly they may influence more ad dollars, but taht is a very indirect claim.

    2 – I think you’re overvaluing Tweetdeck at this juncture. If UberMedia already has created a subnetwork basically mirroring Twitter interchanges then that would be one thing – but at this point Twitter could still revoke access for all UberMedia and Tweetdeck apps and there is no alternatieve that is already working behind the scenes. Yes that would infuriate a large number of power users, but that would not necessarily push them away form Twitter and to a direct competitor which may have other power users but a tiny fraction of the fans. Many power users utilize Twitter to communicate with a wider audience, and without the audience the value of Twitter is massively reduced to such people/brands. Tweetdeck is great, but it is only a client and at this point the value is in the userbase and the protocol. Turning off the hose for UberMedia would frustrate a lot of influential people, but if Twitter don’t do so they risk a situation in the future when UberMedia may be able to push such a deal on different terms later.

    To put it simply – at this point almost all the value of Tweetdeck (and all other Twitter clients) is making use of the Twitter API/content/connection. Twitter still holds all the cards.

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  • http://myindigolives.wordpress.com/ Ellie K

    You referenced a frequent problem when TechCrunch tries to do financial reporting on technology companies.

    For another example, see Arrington’s not-so-correct-insider-scoop story in late February Chris Sacca, J.P. Morgan own more Twitter common than Biz Stone, Jack Dorsey or anyone else besides Evan Williams. It is a good example of how they should get someone like Peter Kafka or Kara S, or a recently minted MBA grad from any school in the country, to check their work when doing securities analysis, even for tech sector companies.

    Note: link goes directly to my Disqus comment, with quote from Sacca about Conway that Arrington should have caught from front page of Sacca web site he linked to in TechCrunch story. Self-promo, sorry, rare for me to indulge in, full article precedes.

    Love this Disqus comment system! Won’t be limited to CrunchGear anymore. Nice!

  • johnb

    Not sure why you mentioned messaging “before e-mail.” You’ve left your initial point entirely, i.e. (E-mail + Gmail) is similar to (Twitter + TweetDeck).

    Of course, Twitter isn’t unique if we’re just comparing “opt-in/subscription communications” methods in general (e.g. RSS), anymore than Facebook is unique if we’re just discussing the concept of “social networks” at large (e.g. MySpace). What these two have in common is that they’re 100% proprietary services and have a strangehold on what they do; in contrast with e-mail, which is a system that’s infinitely open.

    The comparison is just not there. In fact, we’ll probably make more sense comparing Twitter to Gmail.

    Here’s another way to see it. Hypothetical question:
    (A) If Twitter dies today, what happens? Infinite chaos because of its proprietary nature, market dominance of the space, and in many ways, its definition of this kind of communications.
    (B) If e-mail dies today, what happens? The question doesn’t even apply. It simply can’t ‘die’ in the same sense that Twitter can ‘die’.

  • http://borasky-research.net/2011/01/13/project-kipling-alpha-test-is-now-in-suse-studio-ddj-datajourno/ znmeb

    The Disqus is here because it’s EU – plain ol’ Murrican TechCrunch has the lame-o Farcebook comment scheme. ;-)

  • http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/ Ben Metcalfe @dotBen

    “UberMedia can then say “Unless you let us sell our own advertising, not yours, against those Tweets, we will have to migrate our user base onto a different platform.”

    This assumes that Tweetdecks users, especially the “top users”/”most valuable users” would switch away from Twitter if invited by UberMedia. I doubt that would happen.

    It might be interesting to watch Twitter enter into a bidding-war for Tweetdeck to jack the price up, let UberMedia take the financial hit and ‘win’ the auction and then watch them die from resultant insolvency.

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  • http://twitter.com/mikebutcher Mike Butcher

    we’re forgetting Gross’ obvious threat to BUILD a new platform here.

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  • http://twitter.com/jasonadriaan Jason Adriaan

    This stat is highly questionable: “Research found that a tiny minority of users – around .05% of the site’s population or 20,000 elite users – are generating around half of all the Tweets.”

    This would mean that each of those 20 000 people would have to tweet 3500 times per day. ref http://j.mp/ehJhvs

  • Nixkuroi

    All twitter has to do is kill the API. Tweetdeck would be over instantly. What do you think tweetdeck is for? It’s to connect to twitter. If you connect it to another service, all the people who’ve spent months or years building followers aren’t going to suddenly move over to some new service because they really dig a client.

    How many people do you know that stopped using the web when Netscape went down the tubes?

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  • http://cognited.tumblr.com/ warren

    EXACTLY.

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  • Tom

    Why are you assuming Tweetdeck is the be all and end all of Twitter apps that Twitter MUST buy. If anything in this crazy tech world – the next “best” thing – be all end all – will come out by someone soon. Or some other app will get traction and Tweetdeck is second banana.

    Or is Twitter to buy all apps that get tractions to protect itself. WHen some are not even sure Twitter is here for the long term?

  • http://www.facebook.com/j.cannon.b Joshua Butcher

    You shouldn’t use terms like “FUCK LOAD” in your analysis. It makes it seem as if you can’t find anything intellectual to say to get your point across.

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  • Veli

    My thoughts exactly. I hope somebody change it soon.

  • http://sebmos.at/ Sebastian

    You’re forgetting an important factor in your “calculation”: What if UberMedia does not get to a 1b dollar exit? (Which is a very likely scenario. They are far away from proving they can actually execute on their supposed vision. Actually, they are even far away from proving they can *negotiate*, after failing to finalize the Tweetdeck deal. They are the ones who messed the Tweetdeck deal up so badly that Twitter does even have the chance of thinking about buying Tweetdeck.)

    A 50m Twitter deal with stocks that might be worth 100m some day is much better than 25m from Uber that might very well end up being worth not more than that.

  • Ramatsuilap

    Whats with the obscene language? I was enjoying the article until you started throwing profane languge in the air.

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  • Richard Alberg

    A meaningless threat. Those 20,000 power tweeters need their audience. They have invested months/years obtaining their followers. Why would they want to do this again? If Tweetdeck no longer reaches these followers, these users will invest 5 minutes in downloading another client that does. Their allegiance is to their own needs and not supporting Tweetdeck’s owner’s commercial battles.

  • http://twitter.com/askmepc Linda Lee

    Since I started using Tweetdeck I finally get twitter.
    I know I am not alone in not really seeing what twitter can do and how to enjoy using it vs. feeling like a spot in cyberspace. Tweetdeck allows you to see what is going on and feel a part of the bigger picture. Twitter should buy it for sure for all the reasons you mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    interesting post, about 60% too long…twitter can cut off tweetdeck any time…the *power users* will use any client twitter gives them since they want to be broadcast on twitter to continue to promote their careers/movies/music/cause…

  • johnb

    It’s an empty threat, because building the platform is not the real challenge, i.e., the technical part of building. Getting massive users to the point of dominance is. As Richard mentioned, what are 20,000 power tweeters without their followers?

    TweetDeck users aren’t using Twitter because of the client. Rather, they’re using TweetDeck because of Twitter.

  • http://twitter.com/Tendaijoe Tendai Sean Joe

    This is one of the most interesting blog posts about start-ups i have ever read. Thanx

  • http://twitter.com/Tendaijoe Tendai Sean Joe

    This is one of the most interesting blog posts about start-ups i have ever read. Thanx

  • http://twitter.com/petsitterbible Josh Schermer

    A different picture could have been used to display your point.

  • http://twitter.com/petsitterbible Josh Schermer

    A different picture could have been used in the story to display your point.

  • http://spirocks.com Spiro Pappadopoulos

    I agree ‘power users’ by definition have thousands of followers on twitter. If twitter flips the switch today, they would not choose a new service to stay with tweetdeck they would choose a ne client to stay with Twitter. This seems like a hairbrained argument to me.

    How many of you would walk fromthe connections you have on twitter to stay with tweetdeck.

    I sure as he’ll wouldn’t. @spirocks

  • http://www.biodeals.de Johann

    What’s valuable about Twitter is the massive, active audience, the name recognition, the international – not the 20k power users. They would be rather useless, on their own. The article really is way off from reality.

  • Anonymous

    Twitter couldn’t build a Tweetdeck killer for less than $50m?
    Probably doesn’t even need to be that much better to clean up and Tweetdeck isn’t exactly perfect so I don’t imagine loyalty is unshakeable, especially amongst power users.

  • http://askingly.com/?p=391 How Twitter Can Save $50 Million: Forget TweetDeck, And Go Freemium On Its API | Askingly.com

    [...] is that it eliminates the need for Twitter to buy Tweetdeck, or Ubermedia. It makes the wholediscussion about the risk of Tweetdeck and Ubermedia to Twitter completely irrelevant, a non-issue, and will [...]

  • jhonnash

    I agree 100%. I love Tweetdeck, but if I couldn’t use it to access Twitter, I would use something else
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  • Anonymous

    If Twitter want to cut off UberMedia, and the users that use any UberMedia client, they can and they will and they’ve already established this.

    The power of Twitter doesn’t just come from the power users posting content, it comes from the non-power users reading content. The value of those 20% on UberMedia and Tweetdeck becomes mute when those 20% haven’t got the other 80% to talk to, so they migrate to other Twitter clients in order to post information to those 80%.

    UberMedia might be making a play for these power users, but as it stands Twitter can quite easily win this by cutting off UberMedia and getting power users to migrate to their own solutions, Twitter have two options to protect themselves from this getting very messy…

    1) Buy TweetDeck
    2) Develop an alternative for power users, cut off Tweetdeck and get them migrating across.

    Whatever UberMedia want to do, and whatever they’re planning as an alternative to Twitter should they get cut off, Twitter has the bulk of users, the brand recognition and the financial backing to win anything that UberMedia might try, especially if one of the real big boys starts sniffing around Twitter itself.

  • tom

    good

  • http://twitter.com/WillPao Will Pao

    If I was Twitter I would just let Ubermedia buy it. Then I would build a Tweetdeck clone called Tweetdeck, which I can do because I own the word “Tweet”–not Ubermedia. It would be identical to Tweetdeck in almost every way and would only take about 2 months to develop (or less depending how much cash was spent on its development.) On the day of the new Tweetdeck’s birth, I would shut Ubermedia’s Tweetdeck down. I really don’t think 20% of Twitter’s userbase would flee to some new Ubermedia Twitter competitor. After all, 80% of Twitter users, who the 20% reach, are still on Twitter.

    Twitter has all the leverage here. No one will whine and say, “If I can’t use Tweetdeck I’m going to quit Twitter and go to another service” because they’ll just be able to use Twitter’s new version of Tweetdeck, which will be the EXACT same thing. It really just comes down to Twitter hiring the right people to build it.

  • http://twitter.com/WillPao Will Pao

    That’s a good point. Twitter can basically cause Ubermedia to deadpool buy letting them buy Tweetdeck and then shutting it off immediately. In fact, it would be a gangster strategy to pretend that you’re interesting in buying Tweetdeck just to get Ubermedia to spend more and then shutting Tweetdeck’s line off the day after the sale.

  • http://borasky-research.net/2011/01/13/project-kipling-alpha-test-is-now-in-suse-studio-ddj-datajourno/ znmeb

    Well – first step is to change the branding. Tweetdeck and the black bird logo will anger the attorneys. Tweetdeck is *not* a Twiiter client! It is actually a social CRM interface. It’s real competition is HootSuite and Seesmic. It has a slight edge because it was the preferred Twitter client for the iPhone up until the time Twitter bought one and enhanced it.

    Second step is to build a better product – a product better than HootSuite and Seesmic that’s *compelling*. Seesmic has a partnership with Salesforce.com and connects to Chatter. HootSuite and Seesmic *both* have web apps that work in *all* the browsers; Tweetdeck’s only works in Chrome. *None* of them have a compelling mobile app – I give the edge to Seesmic on the Android but really, none of them talk to LinkedIn on a mobile yet and that’s a show-stopper as far as I’m concerned.

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  • Alex

    As a start up ourselves (RepZio), this really makes you look at things is a completely different spectrum.

  • http://www.140char.com/2011/04/140char-links-04252011/ 140Char » 140Char Links 04/25/2011

    [...] How a Tweetdeck, UberMedia deal could cut down Twitter’s bird [...]

  • http://twitter.com/Yoostin Justin Lewis

    I’ve got to agree with Mike that buying Tweetdeck would be the defensive move. Of course twitter have the kill switch and I think they may be under the radar for an anti-trust kicking.

    The smart move would be for a VC with a finger in the open messaging protocols pie to snap up tweetdeck for it’s distribution. Run an open distributed (XMPP?) platform in parallel with twitter from the client side. That for one blunts twitter’s kill switch because users would have less pain, they could keep on tweeting via the distributed open platform – they aren’t cut off.

    Joltid, please stand up: You never know, maybe tweetdeck could become a P2P client for tweets and then sites that do what twitter does become “trackers”. With an open portable profile of friends and followers it’s not a big deal to switch “trackers”. Then the platform is about discovery and curating which is a more natural fit to have a business plan built around.

    I’d suggest that Tweetdeck’s distribution (node count) is high enough to have significant value. It’s also enough to rocket any open distributed tweet platform right up the first and second stages of the adoption curve. It really is one of those thing’s that makes me wonder: “Why hasn’t anyone done it already”.

    The big BUT! If twitter hit the kill switch on tweetdeck the opportunity will wither and die in days or hours even.

    So it’s really twitter holding the gun, but it’s a dark shadowy scene and they are scared to pull the trigger on tweetdeck in case there’s someone scarier with a bigger gun lurking in the gloom. Twitter could of course make Tweetdeck an offer they couldn’t refuse.

  • http://borasky-research.net/2011/01/13/project-kipling-alpha-test-is-now-in-suse-studio-ddj-datajourno/ znmeb

    “Why hasn’t anyone done it already?” Because there is no *market* for it. Nobody is holding any guns here. Nobody is *forced* to tweet or to post on Facebook or to do SEO or buy advertising. Tweetdeck has fallen behind its true competition and is not in any position to make demands of anyone, and they’re most likely not capable of building a Twitter-killer, even with money from Bill Gross / UberMedia.

    UberMedia isn’t holding any guns here because their Twitter clients are inferior to everyone’s. Twidroyd, for example, is pure garbage. Twitter isn’t holding any guns here because they have two businesses – data and advertising – both of which are highly competitive. They’ll do what they have to do to protect their businesses, like insist that Twitter clients comply with the Terms of Service and change those terms when there is a tactical or strategic business reason to do so.

    My best guess is that the current negotiations between Tweetdeck and Twitter center around the rules of engagement and are not about a full purchase. I don’t see anything in Tweetdeck’s current offerings that violates Twitter’s TOS, although the name “Tweetdeck” and the black bird logo really should have been changed long ago – when Tweetdeck started interfacing with other networks. IMHO Twitter could and should force those changes.

  • http://marketmesuite.com/blog/alternatives-to-tweetdeck-if-twitter-makes-it-twitter-only/ Alternatives To Tweetdeck if Twitter makes it Twitter Only

    [...] come on and defensively buy Tweetdeck, if nothing else, to kill it.  Mike Butcher, in his recent TechCrunch article, points out how important he feels it is for Twitter to acquire this piece of software: [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/karim.guessous Karim Guessous

    Classic bubble era behavior. Tools are now considered full fledged businesses, and more investors are speculating in the Apps space (one pony tricks) rather than help build businesses. In the current case, Twitter holds a superior advantage: they are the platform and Uber/Tweetdeck is the app.

  • Ctaylor1016

    You spent way to much time on this article. It’s not that big of a deal. Things like this happen. No need to write a book about it.

  • Anonymous

    how are they going to whine without twitter access? … they will whine, on Twitter!

  • http://www.acelaweb.com/2011/04/28/fly-or-die-can-tweetdecks-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck’s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | Acelaweb.com

    [...] Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://dressinstyle.co.uk/juice/fly-or-die-can-tweetdecks-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck?s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | Dress Juice

    [...] the show. With Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://www.bitmag.com/2011/04/28/fly-or-die-can-tweetdeck%e2%80%99s-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck’s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | Bitmag

    [...] Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://www.gmbankloan.com/fly-or-die-can-tweetdecks-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck?s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition

    [...] the show. With Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://techgeek.nokiaspysoftware.net/?p=915 (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck?s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | Best Tech Geek Infomation You

    [...] the show. With Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://www.appleonline-ipad.net/?p=17644 (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck’s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | Apple Online

    [...] Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of a hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not transparent either this code new product will survive such a [...]

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  • http://www.taylordavidson.com Taylor Davidson

    i.e. Compete by making a better product rather than attempting to “own” a portion of the user base. Not only is it better strategy in this case, but also much more likely to succeed in the long run.

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com Taylor Davidson

    i.e. Compete by making a better product rather than attempting to “own” a portion of the user base. Not only is it better strategy in this case, but also much more likely to succeed in the long run.

  • http://ba2d.com/techno-twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | User Manual Guide

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.makenoise.co.za/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | MakeNoise : MakeNoise

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.bitmag.com/2011/05/02/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | Bitmag

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20110502twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ Twitter、TweetDeckを$40M~$50Mで買収へ

    [...] 本誌は去る2月、Bill GrossのUberMediaによるTweetDeckの買収が、$25M(2500万ドル)~$30M(3000万ドル)で ほほ完了したと報じた。実際、契約はほぼ完了していた。しかし、すぐにTwitterが一方的に対抗案を提示し、TweetDeckはまた交渉の席に着いた。TechCrunch EUが経緯の詳細を報じている。 [...]

  • http://www.24technologynews.com/top-news/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million : 24 Technology News

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.iphoneanswers.net/1688/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-what-does-this-mean-for-iphone-apps.html Twitter buys Tweetdeck, what does this mean for iPhone apps?

    [...] [TechCrunch EU via TechCrunch] [...]

  • http://www.tweetingcentral.com/?p=1942 Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | Tweeting Central

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://mkbed-03.miltonkeynesbedsits.co.uk/?p=1665 Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million « miltonkeynesbedsits.co.uk

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.quora.com/Twitter-Acquisition-of-TweetDeck-May-2011/Why-would-Twitter-buy-Tweetdeck-for-40-50-Million#ans525328 Twitter Acquisition of TweetDeck (May 2011): Why would Twitter buy Tweetdeck for $40-50 Million? – Quora

    [...] If you are seeking the reason and not the amount of money then Techcrunch offers an analysis: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/04…Choices:UberMedia buys Tweetdeck, thus gaining around 20% of the userbase of Twitter.With one fell [...]

  • http://theiphoneindex.com/2011/05/03/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-what-does-this-mean-for-iphone-apps/ Twitter buys Tweetdeck, what does this mean for iPhone apps? | The iPhone Index

    [...] [TechCrunch EU via TechCrunch] [...]

  • http://www.iphather.com/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-what-does-this-mean-for-iphone-apps/ Twitter buys Tweetdeck, what does this mean for iPhone apps? | iPhather

    [...] [TechCrunch EU via TechCrunch] [...]

  • http://www.tweetingfollowersite.com/?p=1983 Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | Tweeting Follower Site

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://technews.8a9b.com/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million | Tech News

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • Vishal

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  • http://market2phones.com/2011/05/tweetdecks-sale-to-twitter-expected-soon/ TweetDeck’s Sale To Twitter Expected Soon | Market To Phones

    [...] source reiterates something Mike Butcher reported last week: “UberMedia had a 30 day exclusive on that deal. But negotiations took too long and [...]

  • http://antyweb.pl/dlaczego-twitter-kupil-tweetdeck-za-40-do-50-milionow-dolarow/ Dlaczego Twitter kupił TweetDeck za 40 do 50 milionów dolarów?

    [...] byłby w stanie zapłacić za TweetDeck znacznie więcej ponieważ w tym przypadku chodziło o ochronę własnego biznesu i zablokowanie konkurencji przed powiększeniem udziału w rynku nieoficjalnych aplikacji dla [...]

  • http://socialmediatrifecta.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck « Social Media Trifecta

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://business.financialpost.com/2011/05/03/bootup-sony-security-breach-worsens/ Bootup: Sony security breach worsens | FP Tech Desk | Financial Post

    [...] and EchoFon — lending some believability to Monday’s report. Twitter also reportedly had to outbid UberMedia to win the right to buy [...]

  • http://angelbc.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/twitter-compra-tweetdeck-%c2%bfse-termina-el-romance/ Twitter compra Tweetdeck: ¿Se termina el romance? | El Ornitorrinco en Linea

    [...] clientes externos exitosos, como Echofon. Y las perspectivas para Twitter si esto hubiera sucedido no eran alentadoras. Por eso hizo una contraoferta de 50 millones de dólares a Tweetdeck que al parecer ya fué [...]

  • http://punchcom.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million-techcrunch/ #Twitter To Buy #TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million – TechCrunch « Punch Comunicação's Blog

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.blackweb20.com/2011/05/03/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-50-million/ Twitter Blocks UberMedia. Buys TweetDeck For Around $50 Million. | Black Web 2.0

    [...] base and Ubermedia would have had too much control over a large number of Twitter users. Check out TechCrunch EU for a rundown of possible [...]

  • http://www.tweetingfollowersite.com/?p=1997 The Circuit: Google Korea offices raided, Twitter said to acquire TweetDeck … | Tweeting Follower Site

    [...] another company that produces Twitter clients, which reportedly had a $30 million offer and a 30-day window of exclusivity on the deal, that expired after negotiations took longer than [...]

  • http://netsoftmobile.com/2011/05/03/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million | NetSoft Consultants

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://16memorias.com/twitter-hopes-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-50-million-appolicious/ Twitter hopes to buy Tweetdeck for $40-50 million (Appolicious) | News From Around the Internet

    [...] Butcher over at TechCrunch explains a bit more. Currently, Twitter controls 100 percent of the ads that run through Twitter. That aside, there was [...]

  • http://www.rocketnews.com/2011/05/twitter-hopes-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-50-million-appolicious/ Twitter hopes to buy Tweetdeck for $40-50 million (Appolicious) | Stock Market News – Business & Tech News

    [...] Butcher over at TechCrunch explains a bit more. Currently, Twitter controls 100 percent of the ads that run through Twitter. That aside, there was [...]

  • http://www.adleras.ro/tweetdeck-decide-ce-se-va-intampla-cu-twitter/ TweetDeck decide ce se va intampla cu Twitter | adleras.ro

    [...] alegerea a fost facuta de TweetDeck, care a decis catre cine sa mearga.Citeste mai multe detalii pe TechCrunch Europe#dd_ajax_float{ background:none repeat scroll 0 0 #171717; border:1px solid #171717; float:left; [...]

  • http://www.dailydealmedia.com/twitter-buys545-tweetdeck/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck | DailyDeal Media

    [...] in fact done until Twitter sent in an unsolicited offer.  There is an article by Mike Butcher on EU Techcrunch which has all the deal details and how it went down. He [...]

  • http://www.tweetingcentral.com/?p=2033 TweetDeck’s Sale To Twitter Expected Soon | Tweeting Central

    [...] source reiterates something Mike Butcher reported last week: “UberMedia had a 30 day exclusive on that deal. But negotiations took too long and it [...]

  • http://www.thegeniusfiles.com thegeniusfiles

    Fascinating, great article! What do people think about the ability of StatusNet (think Identi.ca) to disrupt Twitter as a drop-in replacement? It seems to me that the decentralized nature of StatusNet would strengthen the hand of client app developers and weaken Twitter’s position. Could also possibly mitigate some of the infrastructure/Fail Whale problems that seem to plague Twitter.

  • http://www.thegeniusfiles.com thegeniusfiles

    By “distributed open platform” do you mean StatusNet? Or would that be unsuitable?

  • http://www.tweetingfollowersite.com/?p=2048 TweetDeck’s Sale To Twitter Expected Soon | Tweeting Follower Site

    [...] source reiterates something Mike Butcher reported last week: “UberMedia had a 30 day exclusive on that deal. But negotiations took too long and it [...]

  • http://maccity.co/?p=3399 TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck « Mac City

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.apple9.com/techcrunch-twitter-buying-tweetdeck.html TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck | Apple Daily Magazine

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://digimoe.com/techcrunch-twitter-buying-tweetdeck/17447/ Digi Moe » TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.likeithateitshareit.com/uncategorized/techcrunch-twitter-buying-tweetdeck/ likeithateitshareit » TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/04/rumors-suggest-twitter-buying-tweetdeck/ TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.tweetingcentral.com/?p=2046 TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck | Tweeting Central

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.insidecellphone.com/techcrunch-twitter-buying-tweetdeck/ TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck | Inside Cellphone

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://iphonesourcing.com/news/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-what-does-this-mean-for-iphone-apps/ Twitter buys Tweetdeck, what does this mean for iPhone apps? | iPhone Sourcing

    [...] [TechCrunch EU via TechCrunch] [...]

  • http://www.tweetingfollowersite.com/?p=2053 TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck | Tweeting Follower Site

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app [...]

  • http://www.waxingunlyrical.com/2011/05/04/the-future-of-tweetdeck/ The Future of TweetDeck | Waxing UnLyrical

    [...] lot of doom and gloom if you believe the people over at TechCrunch (they also broke the story that a deal was done between TweetDeck and Twitter on [...]

  • http://virtualnews.associationofvirtualworlds.com/tweetdecks-sale-to-twitter-coming-soon/ TweetDeck’s Sale to Twitter Coming Soon | Kaye Virtual Report

    [...] source reiterates something Mike Butcher reported last week: “UberMedia had a 30 day exclusive on that deal. But negotiations took too long and it [...]

  • http://www.appleigaga.com/techcrunch-twitter-buying-tweetdeck/ TechCrunch: Twitter buying TweetDeck | AppleiGaga

    [...] client landscape. TechCrunch says a source tells them that Twitter is simply making the purchase to cut off UberMedia from buying the app itself. Twitter purchased the Tweetie client last year, and as you may know, [...]

  • http://paulineshedd45.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/how-twitter-can-save-50-million-forget-tweetdeck-and-go-freemium-on-its-api/ How Twitter Can Save $50 Million: Forget TweetDeck, And Go Freemium On Its API | paulineshedd45

    [...] is that it eliminates the need for Twitter to buy Tweetdeck, or Ubermedia. It makes the wholediscussion?about the risk of Tweetdeck and Ubermedia to Twitter completely irrelevant, a non-issue, and will [...]

  • http://www.ghacks.net/2011/05/07/why-is-twitter%e2%80%99s-acquisition-of-tweetdeck-more-than-it-seems/ Why Is Twitter’s Acquisition of TweetDeck More Than It Seems?

    [...] The deal was supposed to be for $25-$30 million. But neither party released official statements. One source says there was a 30 day exclusive, but it passed because the negotiations dragged out too long.Uber [...]

  • http://www.appatic.com Avatar X

    While the post had a overly dramatic tone. The basis of it is correct.

    Many saying that Twitter could just close their API to Tweetdeck and kill that side of the apps and be done with it, are absolutely crazy. Twitter investors would never let that happen and would hold the board accountable for it. Why? because you don’t go a piss of the top 10% users of your network like that asi it could cause a PR shitstorm and it would seriously damage your perceived value.

    And also because it would also make everyone using Twitter API nervous. I would cause a very damaging effect of putting many to look at Twitter alternatives as replacements, etc. Twitter killing TweetDeck would be like stabbing yourself in both legs. It may not kill you, but it will fuck you up pretty good.

  • http://www.appatic.com Avatar X

    I do still think that bill gross may want to do his own network. It would be very interesting if he decided to go and buy one, lets say Status.net and make all his apps support it.

  • http://wearesocialpeople.com/?p=8 What’s the deal with Tweetdeck? | We Are Social People

    [...] come on and defensively buy Tweetdeck, if nothing else, to kill it.  Mike Butcher, in his recent TechCrunch article, points out how important he feels it is for Twitter to acquire this piece of software: [...]

  • http://usevolimu.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million | usevolimu

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://avevydybecut.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million | avevydybecut

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

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    If they do split into rival organisations I can see the power users
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  • http://xbox360gamepreviews.gamerlimit.com/2011/05/fly-or-die-can-tweetdecks-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ Xbox 360 Game Previews » Blog Archive » (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck?s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition

    [...] the show. With Twitter rumored to be negotiating a $50 million acquisition of TweetDeck to keep it out of the hands of Bill Gross’ UberMedia, it is not clear whether this brand new product will survive such a [...]

  • http://worldbadnews.com/world-bad-news/2011/05/03/looks-like-twitter-won-the-battle-for-tweetdeck/ Looks Like Twitter Won the Battle for TweetDeck – World Bad News : World Bad News

    [...] happened? UberMedia reportedly had a 30-day exclusive on a deal, though negotiations took too long, giving Twitter an event to make a aloft [...]

  • http://theplaystation3blog.gamerlimit.com/2011/05/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ the Playstation 3 Blog » Blog Archive » Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://sevidorodap.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million ? $50 Million | sevidorodap

    [...] quickly provided an unsolicited counter offer, and TweetDeck was in play again. TechCrunch EU has the full story on how that played [...]

  • http://www.24technologynews.com/top-news/looks-like-twitter-won-the-battle-for-tweetdeck Looks like Twitter won the battle for TweetDeck : 24 Technology News

    [...] happened? UberMedia reportedly had a 30-day exclusive on the deal, but negotiations took too long, giving Twitter an opportunity to make a higher [...]

  • http://techmasher.co.cc/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million — Daily feeds for Tech,apps,news,social media,games,videos,designing,freebie etc.

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  • http://techmasher.co.cc/twitter-to-buy-tweetdeck-for-40-million-%e2%80%93-50-million-2/ Twitter To Buy TweetDeck For $40 Million – $50 Million — Daily feeds for Tech,apps,news,social media,games,videos,designing,freebie etc.

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  • http://alt1040.com/2011/05/twitter-adquiere-tweetdeck-por-40-millones-de-dolares Twitter adquiere TweetDeck por 40 millones de dólares — ALT1040

    [...] Luis Zapata hace unos días, el movimiento de Twitter se explica como una estrategia defensiva ante la avanzada de UberTwitter, principalmente, lo cual es lógico si consideramos que Twitter se ve a sí mismo como poseedor [...]

  • http://actualizame.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/twitter-adquiere-tweetdeck-por-40-millones-de-dolares/ Twitter adquiere TweetDeck por 40 millones de dólares « Actualizame

    [...] Zapata hace unos días, el movimiento de Twitter se explica como una estrategia defensiva ante la avanzada de UberTwitter, principalmente, lo cual es lógico si consideramos que Twitter se ve a sí mismo como poseedor [...]

  • http://cowboymaejofc.com/?p=852 TweetDeck Twitter acquires U.S. $ 40 million » Cowboy Mae

    [...] Luis Zapata few days ago, the movement of Twitter explained as a defensive strategy against the Advanced UberTwitter , mainly, which is logical if we consider that Twitter sees himself as having almost all of our [...]

  • http://tecnomonkey.com/2011/05/twitter-adquiere-tweetdeck-por-40-millones-de-dolares/ Twitter adquiere TweetDeck por 40 millones de dólares |

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  • http://www.makenoise.co.za/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | MakeNoise : MakeNoise

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://ba2d.com/techno-twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | User Manual Guide

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://crazyarticles.tk/index.php/2011/05/24/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Crazy Articles Directory » Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://www.macsoftware.com/news/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million – MacSoftware

    [...] now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down.It seems that Twitter just wasn’t comfortable with allowing UberMedia to snatch another chunk [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20110523twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ TwitterがTweetDeckを$40Mで買収–金の無駄遣いという批判も

    [...] 思い出せば、TweetDeckの買収話はいろいろと変わり、2月の段階ではTweetDeckはもうすぐBill GrossのUberMediaが買収すると報道された。その推定価額は$25〜$30M(2500万〜3000万ドル)だった。その時点では、Twitterの影は見えなかった。しかしどうやらTwitterはこのとき、あわててせり上げたらしい。それは、今日の一件が証明しているように、TweetDeckが断り切れない価額だ。この間のくわしい経緯を知りたい人は、TechCrunch EUのこの記事を読んでいただきたい。 [...]

  • http://malgibar.co.cc/news/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million.html Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Gadgets Riview | Malgibar

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  • http://trendoloji.com/?p=2191 Twitter $ 40 Milyon için TweetDeck Buys

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  • http://pods.lv/2011/05/24/twitter_perk_twitdeck_par_40_miljoniem/ Twitter pērk TweetDeck par $40 miljoniem | Pods.lv

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  • http://brettmbell.com/2011/05/24/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | BrettMBell.com

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://www.iphoneblog.de/2011/05/24/path-lehnt-google-angebot-ab-und-twitter-schnappt-sich-tweetdeck/ ‘Path’ lehnt Google-Angebot ab und Twitter schnappt sich TweetDeck – iPhoneBlog.de

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  • http://venkateshkothapalli.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million « Venkatesh Kothapalli

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://www.bentonpena.org/news/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million.html Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Benton Pena @ technology + culture + life and everything in between

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://www.maplegrovelocal.com/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Maple Grove Local News

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $ 25 and $ 30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://www.whocrunch.com/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | WhoCrunch

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://breakingdaily.com/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Breaking Daily

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  • http://wearesocialpeople.com/twitter-thwarts-ubermedia-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Thwarts UberMedia, Buys Tweetdeck For $40 Million – We Are Social People

    [...] come on and defensively buy Tweetdeck, if nothing else, to kill it.  Mike Butcher, in his recent TechCrunch article, points out how important he feels it is for Twitter to acquire this piece of software: [...]

  • http://economics.com.au/?p=7086 Twitter’s acquisition strategy : Core Economics

    [...] to TechCrunch, TweetDeck was being courted by UberMedia. UberMedia themselves have a popular Twitter client as part of their suite and TweetDeck would [...]

  • http://ebay-express.com/2011/05/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Ebay shopping tips

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://startuptimes.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/twitter%e3%80%81tweetdeck%e3%82%92%e8%b2%b7%e5%8f%8e%e3%81%b8%e3%80%82%e9%98%b2%e5%be%a1%e7%9a%84%e8%b2%b7%e5%8f%8e%e3%81%a8%e6%8e%a8%e6%b8%ac%e3%81%95%e3% Twitter、TweetDeckを買収へ。防御的買収と推測される。 « StartupTimes

    [...] 本誌は去る2月、Bill GrossのUberMediaによるTweetDeckの買収が、$25M(2500万ドル)~$30M(3000万ドル)で ほほ完了したと報じた。実際、契約はほぼ完了していた。しかし、すぐにTwitterが一方的に対抗案を提示し、TweetDeckはまた交渉の席に着いた。TechCrunch EUが経緯の詳細を報じている。 [...]

  • http://sanospr.com/the-rationale-for-twitters-40-million-tweetdeck-purchase-the-atlantic-wire/ The Rationale for Twitter’s $40 Million TweetDeck Purchase (The Atlantic Wire)

    [...] Mike Butcher at TechCrunch says this was more of a defensive move than anything else. He imagines the alternative, if UberMedia had purchased TweetDeck. [...]

  • http://www.qibug.com/2011/05/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million | Tech stuff center

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • Anonymous

    Twitter building another app is nonsense. Your not thinking correctly there. If you owned twitter, and you had all these official twitter apps that you want people to be using, why would you create a tweetdeck clone? To compete with yourself..? Obviously all the money goes to the same place, but your creating a competing app for people to choose from in the app store, potentially taking away from your official apps, thus making it harder for each to maintain a higher ranking and central user base. Twitter only wants iphone users to use the official iphone app. Giving it a higher ranking, higher download numbers and keeping it relevant. If they wanted to make a model where they added a premium upgrade for like 99 cents for power users that need the features of tweetdeck, they could do that and make a lot more than just trying to put another client version out there with more features than the official app. If anything, they would be improving the official apps to use the added features instead of trying to make new separate apps, that would just be ignorant to even approach it in that way. 

    I think it is good they are buying Tweetdeck instead of simply flipping their API switch off. That would send a HORRIBLE message to the Dev community. Absolutely horrible. I myself am a dev and if that happened would scare the hell out of me. If they ever got to the point where they simply turn you off if you get to many users, there would be no reason to dev anything using their API. Their API would become toxic in a sense, no one would touch it or base their businesses or applications around them, because if it were to get picked as too big, and it just shut off, it would ruin their service, thus forcing their company to dissolve, and possibly take large losses.

    However, the solution to all of this is revenue sharing. If they had a standard for displaying ads, and possibly would serve that content themselves, like iAds does for iphone Devs, then you eliminate this fear of loosing your people. Think if Apple was the only one that could put up apps on the app store. They would do well, but they never would have made it this far. Devs are the ones that drive massive growth, so instead of competing with them or trying to scare them into submission, simply spend your already misguided efforts of trying to bring the hammer down on devs and figure out a profit sharing model to make everyone happy, then no one has to be afraid of the other one. How it is now though is not sustainable, and if Twitter ever did start banning viable services because of fear of control, you would see a mass exodus of developers and very little to no future development of any 3rd party apps or plugins that use twitter in any serious manner.

    You have to realize also, that A LOT of users that came to twitter came because of these other apps, and continue to come back because of them. Developers built twitters userbase for them. Now they know they cannot cut our throats, but they are certainly putting the knife there to let us know its possible. It is all just ridiculous though. Twitter needs better managers and execs to take a clear forward thinking approach to working with Devs and stop all this drama and let twitter solidify its position in the market. Until they do that, thye are hurting themselves just as much as they are us, by making their own future uncertain.

  • Anonymous

    Twitter building another app is nonsense. Your not thinking correctly there. If you owned twitter, and you had all these official twitter apps that you want people to be using, why would you create a tweetdeck clone? To compete with yourself..? Obviously all the money goes to the same place, but your creating a competing app for people to choose from in the app store, potentially taking away from your official apps, thus making it harder for each to maintain a higher ranking and central user base. Twitter only wants iphone users to use the official iphone app. Giving it a higher ranking, higher download numbers and keeping it relevant. If they wanted to make a model where they added a premium upgrade for like 99 cents for power users that need the features of tweetdeck, they could do that and make a lot more than just trying to put another client version out there with more features than the official app. If anything, they would be improving the official apps to use the added features instead of trying to make new separate apps, that would just be ignorant to even approach it in that way. 

    I think it is good they are buying Tweetdeck instead of simply flipping their API switch off. That would send a HORRIBLE message to the Dev community. Absolutely horrible. I myself am a dev and if that happened would scare the hell out of me. If they ever got to the point where they simply turn you off if you get to many users, there would be no reason to dev anything using their API. Their API would become toxic in a sense, no one would touch it or base their businesses or applications around them, because if it were to get picked as too big, and it just shut off, it would ruin their service, thus forcing their company to dissolve, and possibly take large losses.

    However, the solution to all of this is revenue sharing. If they had a standard for displaying ads, and possibly would serve that content themselves, like iAds does for iphone Devs, then you eliminate this fear of loosing your people. Think if Apple was the only one that could put up apps on the app store. They would do well, but they never would have made it this far. Devs are the ones that drive massive growth, so instead of competing with them or trying to scare them into submission, simply spend your already misguided efforts of trying to bring the hammer down on devs and figure out a profit sharing model to make everyone happy, then no one has to be afraid of the other one. How it is now though is not sustainable, and if Twitter ever did start banning viable services because of fear of control, you would see a mass exodus of developers and very little to no future development of any 3rd party apps or plugins that use twitter in any serious manner.

    You have to realize also, that A LOT of users that came to twitter came because of these other apps, and continue to come back because of them. Developers built twitters userbase for them. Now they know they cannot cut our throats, but they are certainly putting the knife there to let us know its possible. It is all just ridiculous though. Twitter needs better managers and execs to take a clear forward thinking approach to working with Devs and stop all this drama and let twitter solidify its position in the market. Until they do that, thye are hurting themselves just as much as they are us, by making their own future uncertain.

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  • http://himu1993.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million « himu1993

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://fiftypsi.com/2011/06/10/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-for-40-million/ » Twitter Buys TweetDeck For $40 Million 50psi

    [...] As you may remember, the story of TweetDeck’s acquisition has changed a bit since February, as reports indicated at that point that TweetDeck was on the verge of being acquired by Bill Gross’ UberMedia — the price speculated at between $25 and $30 million. And, as it seems, Twitter was having none of that. They apparently rushed in with a counteroffer — an offer now proved to be on that TweetDeck couldn’t refuse. You can check out TechCrunch EU for the full story on how it all went down. [...]

  • http://jetlib.com/news/2011/04/22/how-twitter-can-save-50-million-forget-tweetdeck-and-go-freemium-on-its-api/ How Twitter Can Save $50 Million: Forget TweetDeck, And Go Freemium On Its API | JetLib News

    [...] is that it eliminates the need for Twitter to buy Tweetdeck, or Ubermedia. It makes the wholediscussion about the risk of Tweetdeck and Ubermedia to Twitter completely irrelevant, a non-issue, and [...]

  • http://www.iphonegreece.gr/2011/05/twitter-buys-tweetdeck-what-does-this-mean-for-iphone-apps/ Twitter buys Tweetdeck, what does this mean for iPhone apps? | iPhone Greece

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  • http://jetlib.com/news/2011/04/28/fly-or-die-can-tweetdeck%e2%80%99s-new-iphone-app-survive-a-twitter-acquisition/ (Fly Or Die) Can TweetDeck’s New iPhone App Survive A Twitter Acquisition | JetLib News

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