Zwapp’s app makes iPhone app discovery more social
by Mike Butcher
on April 29, 2011

Sharing what mobile apps you have in a social network has been tried various ways. Appsfire hit on the idea of socialising apps.

Zwapp is coming at it from a slightly different angle. Its iPhone app (iTunes link) auto-discovers what apps you have on your iPhone and connects up your contacts, Facebook and Twitter friends. You then follow people who’s opinion’s you respect when it comes to apps. It even has a live feed where you can see what apps your friends are using and downloading (privacy is now most definitely over it would seem).

Of course what Zwapp is is a social interface to the iPhone app store – something the store itself lacks. It will also soon be fully funtional on the web as well, here’s an example.

As Zwapp’s Alexander van Elsas says “we’re try to make the app store small again” – in other words, discovery is broken on a store with millions of apps, so it makes sense to bring it back to a place where you can find the best apps your friends use. Considering you can also rate and review apps from within Zwapp, this should proide a far more useful social layer than Apple’s own iTunes.

Business model-wise, Zwapp gets a referral fee when someone downloads an app from one of their links. Eventually they should have data for apps publishers which should be pretty valuable.

Here’s an interview with Zwapp’s van Elsas, recorded at The Next Web conference in Amsterdam.

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  • Zwapp user

    how does it much diffrent from apptizer

  • Barry

    How do they know which apps they have on my phone? I tried it, and it picked some of what I have, but not everything…

  • Simon

    neat product but has 0 chance to break into mass market

    why ?

    because all your friend have on their phone : angry birds and shazam, period.

  • Stevej

    uQuery is doing a good job at connecting your friends with your apps … without hacking my phone

  • Ted

    For Android, “Appreciate: Find Apps” seems to be getting good reviews. For a privacy minded guy like me, I like that it allows me to hide apps I don’t want to share.

  • Anonymous

    is Disqus back ? on TC, or is this some sort of mistake, like the typo above

  • Anonymous

    uQuery is doing some more social features and a powerful search engine for apps. http://www.uquery.com

  • http://www.nomoredupes.com/ Mia Anderson

    “Its iPhone app (iTunes link) auto-discovers what apps you have on your iPhone and connects up your contacts, Facebook and Twitter friends. You then follow people who’s opinion’s you respect when it comes to apps. It even has a live feed where you can see what apps your friends are using and downloading (privacy is now most definitely over it would seem).”

    - Now this is something! I’m a big fan of different apps, however my privacy is very important for me and I don’t want other people to know about the apps that I am using, I mean its okay when I see what they’re downloading and all that, but I don’t want them to see what I am doing. You see my point? But if this app has some sort of setting where I can make my “business” private, then I don’t mind using this application.

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    Hi Mia,

    excellent suggestion, and we will definitely add extra privacy features in future updates.

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    Haha, cool, and untrue. Run Zwapp and find some friends, you’ll be amazed what a diversity of apps people have. In the end it is fine if you have blockbuster apps and its even better if you share those with your friends. But there is more than the top 100 list the App Store provides you. How about a list of popular apps none of your friends have right now :-)

  • http://www.nomoredupes.com/ Mia Anderson

    Thanks! Looking forward to i!

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    iOS makes it hard to automate app detection. On average I think we get anywhere between 20-70% of your apps detected the first time. But our algorithm will improve every time you start Zwapp and it will detect more apps as you use it.

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    I like Apptizer! As for most of the (competing) apps in this arena they seem to start with apps and then add friends later into the equation. We are trying to do the opposite. We don’t care for hot app lists, we start with friends. I believe the App stores are fundamentally broken because we simply cannot process hundreds of thousands of apps. Zwapp enables you to create little app stores that are run by your friends :-)

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    I like Apptizer! As for most of the (competing) apps in this arena they seem to start with apps and then add friends later into the equation. We are trying to do the opposite. We don’t care for hot app lists, we start with friends. I believe the App stores are fundamentally broken because we simply cannot process hundreds of thousands of apps. Zwapp enables you to create little app stores that are run by your friends :-)

  • http://twitter.com/poormansheli Poor Man’s Heli

    Sounds a lot like what Mobspot has been doing for some time, http://www.mobspot.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/mcastilho Marcio Castilho

    This trick usually only works on iOS 4+. Since multitasking was introduced, there is a BSD function call that you can retrieve the running apps, even though they are sleeping in the background. By comparing processes names of running apps to a list of of known app process names, an app can detect the apps that are running, but not the ones that are not. As Vanelsas suggest, if you open the app at a later stage, it might get lucky and detect other apps if they are running if they weren’t in the previous launch.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ashu.pant Nishant Pant

    Guys, I downloaded your app. It is pretty cool and I like it..but when I logged on to my FB account, I saw like 10 posts by Zwapp!!!! And my friends were annoyed because they felt I was spamming them. And if I remember correctly, Zwapp only asked me once to publish on FB which I did but not for 10 posts !!!

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  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    Hi Nishant,

    I have no idea why that happened. It certainly isn’t the way it ought to work. We request permission and then only once publish something to your feed. I will have my team take a look at this for you to see if we can figure out what happened there.

  • Barry

    Thanks Marcio and Vanelsas,

    that’s interesting, but it did also find apps that were not in the background at all…

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashu.pant Nishant Pant

    Thanks. Don’t worry about troubleshooting it, I just informed you so that you can check if it is a bug at your end and stop it from happening for other users (if it indeed was a bug and it appears it is not). I am a developer myself so I am cool with it.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Noam-Gordon/688152027 Noam Gordon

    This kind of apps exploring util is very much in needed, and the more competition, the better for all of us! Good luck, Alexander!

  • http://twitter.com/frenzapp Frenzapp

    Zwapp, released on April 21st, is an exact replicate of Frenzapp (www.frenzapp.com)

    The name, the design, the features (including the auto-detection) as well as their very own website, is simply a copy of our App (released last november),

    We will let every reader and user decide for themselves but I suggest you take a look at Frenzapp before giving Zwapp any credit.

    Legal actions are on their way…

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  • http://twitter.com/frenzapp Frenzapp

    Simon, I’m sad that YOU did not see the close copycat similarity with Frenzapp (www.frenzapp.com).

    But Mass Market penetration is definitely the challenge for all of us discovery apps…

  • http://twitter.com/frenzapp Frenzapp

    There are a few of us starting with the friends and the social layer. Not sure where did zwapp innovate on that one.

  • http://twitter.com/frenzapp Frenzapp

    The truth is that app detection uses 2 approaches:

    - retrieving and matching the list of running processes (apps you’ve been using recently)
    - checking for specific URL schemes that your phone understands. For exemple, if Safari can open facebook:// or fb:// we know that Facebook is installed. That second method explains why some your apps were detected even if they were not running on the background

    That approach was first introduced by Frenzapp back in November last year and has been adopted (we’re proud of it, really) by many since we made it public. Feel free to give http://frenzapp.com a try

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    Hey Frenzapp, no need for bashing around here.. This has been under development for a while now and while you were releasing we where a long way down our own track already.. The featues that are there are obvious from a social perspective and you can/could expect more to have similar thoughts about it. No copying here, each has its own approach.
    There is plenty room for innovation on all fronts. There are clear similarities but also some clear differences. For example, we have placed all user profiles on the web as well so that they can share from the web without the need for the app. I like your app, but I believe the market needs competition to make it better for everyone. So relax, and let the user do its thing.

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    Thanks Noam, we’ll keep doing our best!

  • http://vanelsas.wordpress.com vanelsas

    well, take a look at the app itself before you start telling everyone that you are cooler than we are :-)

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    We’re not bitching around. Just making sure users judge for themselves.

    As mentioned on twitter, we love competition when it means innovation. We’re however proud to see you guys use our auto-detection algorithm, That’s the reason we made public last year.

    Anyway, no bad feeling here and welcome to the world of app discovery. There is enough room for all of us and more apps means it will be faster to educate mass market.

    Good luck.

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    We’ve recently launched http://www.appfreeway.com and have been thrilled with the downloads we’re seeing.

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